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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wrathamon" data-source="post: 6369214" data-attributes="member: 7989">And, that is where they should have stayed!3e+ bards are the MMO of all bards... lets stand and sing songs and play an instrument to buff and heal the  party. I want to twist my songs to get two buffs. Hey were is my song that let's our whole party run real fast.  They are the EQ/DaoC/WoW buff "support" character. No Thanks. I prefer the Warlord in theme for a character that makes his party better. The idea of some guy playing a lute or singing songs, or poetry as my half orc tries to brain a dragon with his maul just doesnt sit well with me.BUT, some people like that stuff! I think the bard in 5e is acceptable. I think they are much better than the 3e era of bards, the 4e bard was probably the best mechanically (they didnt have the be the ultimate six man but could be a starting front court player!) I think mechanically they look great and probably are decent to play with. The Skald could be a Warlord with some re-fluffing.Reading this class it doesnt look rushed at all and it looks like it had solid playtesting. If your problem is that you wanted a different mechanical system for something that works just as well as spell ... that probably would have been a rush job. I could easily see a Battlemaster take on bardic songs that use a superiority die type trade mechanic to activate the magic. Give a Bardic inspiration die to someone affected by your song or trade it in for some magic zaniness!</blockquote>

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