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The Bard: College of Lore or Valor?
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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6551208" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>My player got hers to level 12 or 13. I got my valor bard to 13 and the class has problems around MAD and not actually being good at combat. </p><p></p><p>I don't think tyou can go to far wrong building a lore bard just focus on something (support, buffing, debuff, healing, blasting). Don't try and do everything at once. The MC lore bard combos I have seen that I liked are the healer one (life cleric1, bard6+) taking goodberry and aura of vitality otherwise take probably bless at level 6 and a level 3 spell of your choice. 2 levels of warlock boosts the bards damage via eldritch blast. The lore bard is not that good of a healer unless you MC or start stealing cleric spells like prayer of healing and aura of vitality. </p><p></p><p>Lore bard is ch cha and cha, try for a 14 dex/con or 14 con/16 dex and cha as half elf. Or take a punt roll some dice and try out something like a Dwarf lore bard if you can roll a 16-8. Good feats to take are healer, warcaster and resilient:con otherwise just buff charisma all the time and get 20 cha by level 8 or 12 and 1-2 feats depending on race.</p><p></p><p> Healer is an MVP feat for any spellcaster really but it helps even more if you are a class that may be expected to carry some of the healing load. If you plan on buffing warcaster is always good, a cleric level dip can get you heavy armor and a fighter level is almost as good for you as it is for the valor bard assuming you start as a fighter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 6551208, member: 6716779"] My player got hers to level 12 or 13. I got my valor bard to 13 and the class has problems around MAD and not actually being good at combat. I don't think tyou can go to far wrong building a lore bard just focus on something (support, buffing, debuff, healing, blasting). Don't try and do everything at once. The MC lore bard combos I have seen that I liked are the healer one (life cleric1, bard6+) taking goodberry and aura of vitality otherwise take probably bless at level 6 and a level 3 spell of your choice. 2 levels of warlock boosts the bards damage via eldritch blast. The lore bard is not that good of a healer unless you MC or start stealing cleric spells like prayer of healing and aura of vitality. Lore bard is ch cha and cha, try for a 14 dex/con or 14 con/16 dex and cha as half elf. Or take a punt roll some dice and try out something like a Dwarf lore bard if you can roll a 16-8. Good feats to take are healer, warcaster and resilient:con otherwise just buff charisma all the time and get 20 cha by level 8 or 12 and 1-2 feats depending on race. Healer is an MVP feat for any spellcaster really but it helps even more if you are a class that may be expected to carry some of the healing load. If you plan on buffing warcaster is always good, a cleric level dip can get you heavy armor and a fighter level is almost as good for you as it is for the valor bard assuming you start as a fighter. [/QUOTE]
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