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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 825973" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>Depends on how you interpret LG.</p><p></p><p>Which is your definition of Lawful?</p><p>1.) If the character obeys the laws of the land, he is lawful; if he breaks them he is chaotic.</p><p>2.) If the character obeys a consistent set of principles, he is lawful; if he breaks them he is chaotic.</p><p></p><p>I tend to think it's #2. Because it sets up:</p><p></p><p>What if the laws of the land are evil?</p><p></p><p>1.) A good character cannot in conscience obey the laws of the land. Since you cannot be good and obey the laws of the land, there can be no LGs in such a society.</p><p>2.) A good character can obey his consistent set of principles, even if he violates the laws of the land in doing. By doing no evil and obeying his principles, he is LG even if he is an outlaw.</p><p></p><p>Here's one for you:</p><p></p><p>In the stories I am familiar with, Robin Hood swore an oath of fealty to uphold King Richard.</p><p>King Richard left for the crusades, and Prince John attempted to usurp the throne, changing the laws of the land to "evil" ones in the process.</p><p></p><p>Where is Robin Hood's allegiance? It's still to King Richard. That makes him lawful, as he is obeying the laws that he (Robin Hood) swore to uphold and challenging the unlawful usurper to the throne.</p><p></p><p>I hear "Robin Hood is CG" a lot... and I'm not convinced.</p><p></p><p>A more extreme example:</p><p></p><p>The laws in hell are not very conducive to paladins obeying them... in fact, paladins visiting hell are breaking the law left and right... and yet a paladin in hell can be LG. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> "Breaking the local law" does not a chaotic character make. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>/hijack</p><p></p><p>--The Sigil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 825973, member: 2013"] Depends on how you interpret LG. Which is your definition of Lawful? 1.) If the character obeys the laws of the land, he is lawful; if he breaks them he is chaotic. 2.) If the character obeys a consistent set of principles, he is lawful; if he breaks them he is chaotic. I tend to think it's #2. Because it sets up: What if the laws of the land are evil? 1.) A good character cannot in conscience obey the laws of the land. Since you cannot be good and obey the laws of the land, there can be no LGs in such a society. 2.) A good character can obey his consistent set of principles, even if he violates the laws of the land in doing. By doing no evil and obeying his principles, he is LG even if he is an outlaw. Here's one for you: In the stories I am familiar with, Robin Hood swore an oath of fealty to uphold King Richard. King Richard left for the crusades, and Prince John attempted to usurp the throne, changing the laws of the land to "evil" ones in the process. Where is Robin Hood's allegiance? It's still to King Richard. That makes him lawful, as he is obeying the laws that he (Robin Hood) swore to uphold and challenging the unlawful usurper to the throne. I hear "Robin Hood is CG" a lot... and I'm not convinced. A more extreme example: The laws in hell are not very conducive to paladins obeying them... in fact, paladins visiting hell are breaking the law left and right... and yet a paladin in hell can be LG. :) "Breaking the local law" does not a chaotic character make. :) /hijack --The Sigil [/QUOTE]
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