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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowdancer" data-source="post: 826493" data-attributes="member: 515"><p>It can be argued that all characters, except maybe those who are psychotic, obey a consistent set of principles. Sometimes that set of principles is one imposed by society; sometimes it is at great odds with those of society.</p><p></p><p>IMHO, the law-chaos axis breaks down as rights or needs of the society vs. the rights or needs of the individual. If you believe the needs of the society, or a culture, or a country, or an institution should take precedent over an individual's rights or freedom of choice, then you are lawful. If you feel that an individual's rights or freedom of choice supercede the needs of the society, or a culture, or a country, or an institution, then you are lawful.</p><p></p><p>Robin Hood is an interesting dilemma. He was against the evil laws of the land imposed by relatives of the king, yet supported the laws of the land created by the king. What is important is not that he opposed the laws, it's what laws he opposed. The laws he opposed took away rights of the individual in favor of the needs of the country, or in this case, the country's illegal leader. I say that makes Robin Hood chaotic.</p><p></p><p>A more timely example might be a soldier called to fight in his country's army. If he is lawful, he believes the needs of the country are more important than an individual's rights to do as he chooses, say stay home and care for his family. If he is chaotic (maybe a pacifist or conscientous objector), he believes his individual rights and beliefs are more important than the needs of the country. But if his beliefs coincide with the needs of the country, he would go fight anyway. Just because he is chaotic doesn't mean he wouldn't act in a way which benefits the lawful-aligned institution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowdancer, post: 826493, member: 515"] It can be argued that all characters, except maybe those who are psychotic, obey a consistent set of principles. Sometimes that set of principles is one imposed by society; sometimes it is at great odds with those of society. IMHO, the law-chaos axis breaks down as rights or needs of the society vs. the rights or needs of the individual. If you believe the needs of the society, or a culture, or a country, or an institution should take precedent over an individual's rights or freedom of choice, then you are lawful. If you feel that an individual's rights or freedom of choice supercede the needs of the society, or a culture, or a country, or an institution, then you are lawful. Robin Hood is an interesting dilemma. He was against the evil laws of the land imposed by relatives of the king, yet supported the laws of the land created by the king. What is important is not that he opposed the laws, it's what laws he opposed. The laws he opposed took away rights of the individual in favor of the needs of the country, or in this case, the country's illegal leader. I say that makes Robin Hood chaotic. A more timely example might be a soldier called to fight in his country's army. If he is lawful, he believes the needs of the country are more important than an individual's rights to do as he chooses, say stay home and care for his family. If he is chaotic (maybe a pacifist or conscientous objector), he believes his individual rights and beliefs are more important than the needs of the country. But if his beliefs coincide with the needs of the country, he would go fight anyway. Just because he is chaotic doesn't mean he wouldn't act in a way which benefits the lawful-aligned institution. [/QUOTE]
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