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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7314739" data-attributes="member: 6919838">i tend to have an aversion to proposed changes which get defended quickly by how little they will matter as in &quot;I don't see the big deal.&quot; making a change that doesn't actually in your own eyes make much of an impact seems like begging the question of &quot;why bother?&quot;As for the combined &quot;not a big deal&quot; and &quot;&quot;makes the party feel awesome&quot; in my experience a set of player can see the difference between &quot;feeling awesome&quot; and &quot;being awesome&quot; pretty quickly and the former does not last long without the other.So, what do i think?I think if you really believe it isn't a big deal then you should not do it. make it a noticable and cool cosmetic change not an inconsequential mechanical one that is intended to be no big deal. I love the bard and the inspiration effects and can see it as fitting a whole lot of character concepts... but I myself have not seen its inspiration ability as &quot;no big deal&quot; or needing a boost in effect by multiplying its targets by 3-5.Have you been seeing in those bard games you referenced that parties with bard's are struggling where those without bards are doing fine? If so then a bard up-tune may be appropriate but then again would need more facts to decide that. if an up-tune was called for it should likely be in an area that would be a big deal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7314739, member: 6919838"] i tend to have an aversion to proposed changes which get defended quickly by how little they will matter as in "I don't see the big deal." making a change that doesn't actually in your own eyes make much of an impact seems like begging the question of "why bother?" As for the combined "not a big deal" and ""makes the party feel awesome" in my experience a set of player can see the difference between "feeling awesome" and "being awesome" pretty quickly and the former does not last long without the other. So, what do i think? I think if you really believe it isn't a big deal then you should not do it. make it a noticable and cool cosmetic change not an inconsequential mechanical one that is intended to be no big deal. I love the bard and the inspiration effects and can see it as fitting a whole lot of character concepts... but I myself have not seen its inspiration ability as "no big deal" or needing a boost in effect by multiplying its targets by 3-5. Have you been seeing in those bard games you referenced that parties with bard's are struggling where those without bards are doing fine? If so then a bard up-tune may be appropriate but then again would need more facts to decide that. if an up-tune was called for it should likely be in an area that would be a big deal. [/QUOTE]

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