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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 8650434" data-attributes="member: 7026594">True, generally.&nbsp; Some modules, first introductory ones like B1 and B2, were not, but you're right that most of the early modules were originally tournament scenarios.&nbsp; TSR had a regular revenue stream from tournament play at conventions, and then got more cash from it by selling the scenarios. TBF, it seems that it was never written/finished in the format they used for modules for other people to run. If you check out the couple of rare photos of level 1 of the CG dungeon in Gary's binder, it's a labyrinthine maze with really minimal, 1-page keying. He and Rob Kuntz have talked about how they improvised a lot of the dungeon dressing. It had detailed maps (LOTS of them), but the keying was evidently written as loose, mostly disorganized notes like a lot of us write for ourselves as DMs, and never at the level of detail that people expect from published products.In the early 2000s he talked about collaborating with Rob Kuntz to complete it as a publishable project, but discussed it being a huge task requiring multiple years of work, and neither of them having the time or financial security to do it &quot;on spec&quot;. Gary later worked with Jeffrey Talanian/Troll Lord Games to eventually complete an alternate version of it, Castle Zagyg I: The Upper Works, which is a big boxed set with 5 large interior books, a maps &amp; illustrations handout, and several level map pages as well, but that came out the same year he passed, and he never completed that re-do.I'm trying to find the post by Gary I was reading last week where he kind of summarized the materials[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://www.enworld.org/threads/q-a-with-gary-gygax.22566/post-2062619[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://www.enworld.org/threads/q-a-with-gary-gygax.22566/post-1031216[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]http://deltasdnd.blogspot.com/2020/01/subterrane-surveys-gygaxs-castle.html[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_castle_sources_soapbox.html[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_castle_sources.html[/URL]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 8650434, member: 7026594"] True, generally. Some modules, first introductory ones like B1 and B2, were not, but you're right that most of the early modules were originally tournament scenarios. TSR had a regular revenue stream from tournament play at conventions, and then got more cash from it by selling the scenarios. TBF, it seems that it was never written/finished in the format they used for modules for other people to run. If you check out the couple of rare photos of level 1 of the CG dungeon in Gary's binder, it's a labyrinthine maze with really minimal, 1-page keying. He and Rob Kuntz have talked about how they improvised a lot of the dungeon dressing. It had detailed maps (LOTS of them), but the keying was evidently written as loose, mostly disorganized notes like a lot of us write for ourselves as DMs, and never at the level of detail that people expect from published products. In the early 2000s he talked about collaborating with Rob Kuntz to complete it as a publishable project, but discussed it being a huge task requiring multiple years of work, and neither of them having the time or financial security to do it "on spec". Gary later worked with Jeffrey Talanian/Troll Lord Games to eventually complete an alternate version of it, Castle Zagyg I: The Upper Works, which is a big boxed set with 5 large interior books, a maps & illustrations handout, and several level map pages as well, but that came out the same year he passed, and he never completed that re-do. I'm trying to find the post by Gary I was reading last week where he kind of summarized the materials [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/q-a-with-gary-gygax.22566/post-2062619[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/q-a-with-gary-gygax.22566/post-1031216[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]http://deltasdnd.blogspot.com/2020/01/subterrane-surveys-gygaxs-castle.html[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_castle_sources_soapbox.html[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_castle_sources.html[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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