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The Battle Continues Over "Childish Things"
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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7770677" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>On the contrary, I'm more than willing - if it is necessary - to look at what Maher actually said. If you can quote Maher in a way that makes it look like I have indeed missed his point, then by all means do so. But my distinct impression is that you have a desire to defend Maher's "point" with no reference to what he actually said, but rather by making up what you might have wished he said. You might have wished he was telling a joke, but the evidence of his actual words suggests he wasn't. You might have wished he was making a point about people being too thin skinned, but there is no evidence of that in the text. You might have wished that he was not equating admiration for Stan Lee with immaturity, but what you wish he had said has nothing to do with what he actually said. </p><p></p><p>If you really think Maher's words are being treated unfairly or taken out of context, by all means demonstrate that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I see no sign that he was joking about anything. And, for that matter, if we was simply providing some corrective but sharp criticism aimed comic book nerds, I would I think be man enough to take it, even if it was completely lacking in good humor or even good intentions. The problem though is that not only is he speaking without good humor, or good will, or any sort of charity, he's just simply <em>wrong</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have endured far more insulting descriptions than this, especially 30 years ago. But I do not call such gibes 'jokes'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7770677, member: 4937"] On the contrary, I'm more than willing - if it is necessary - to look at what Maher actually said. If you can quote Maher in a way that makes it look like I have indeed missed his point, then by all means do so. But my distinct impression is that you have a desire to defend Maher's "point" with no reference to what he actually said, but rather by making up what you might have wished he said. You might have wished he was telling a joke, but the evidence of his actual words suggests he wasn't. You might have wished he was making a point about people being too thin skinned, but there is no evidence of that in the text. You might have wished that he was not equating admiration for Stan Lee with immaturity, but what you wish he had said has nothing to do with what he actually said. If you really think Maher's words are being treated unfairly or taken out of context, by all means demonstrate that. Again, I see no sign that he was joking about anything. And, for that matter, if we was simply providing some corrective but sharp criticism aimed comic book nerds, I would I think be man enough to take it, even if it was completely lacking in good humor or even good intentions. The problem though is that not only is he speaking without good humor, or good will, or any sort of charity, he's just simply [I]wrong[/I]. I have endured far more insulting descriptions than this, especially 30 years ago. But I do not call such gibes 'jokes'. [/QUOTE]
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