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<blockquote data-quote="Doctor Futurity" data-source="post: 7770740" data-attributes="member: 10738"><p>This part I bolded is you answering your own question to the next few....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It shows that the consumer market has changed dramatically over time, shifting away from an adult themed audience to a broader, more popular and younger audience. The adults who enjoy sophisticated films are still there, but those films don't cost millions in CGI effects to produce, while garnering (I bet) the same proportionate crowds they once did long ago. This isn't a case of the market leaving something behind (mature films), it's a case of the mature films remaining present while an entirely new market (sophisticated and expensive but high-return movies aimed at a general or young audience) has risen to absorb a demand previously unmet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Obviously this is a point of opinion but there are a lot of movies that do quite well, are not considered fringe/arthouse and are of the same caliber as Doctor Zhivago, if not superior. The interesting thing about the film industry today is that it supports more uniqure, niche audiences than it ever has before. The fact that the largest chunk of the money goes to broadly popular entertainment for 12 year olds, as you put it, is irrelevant to the fact that so much really quality content is out there. We are literally drowning in content, to be honest.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It says that Football is extremely popular across the ages. Oh wait, you meant geek culture! Sorry. It says that sometimes people grow up enjoying things for arbitrary reasons, and the Gen X parents (of which I am one) were strongly indoctrinated into a new culture of consumer-driven culture, which has allowed us to assimilate a wide range of hobbies and interests that once were considered childish after a certain age, but are now regarded as normal and mainstream. At least part of this is the phenomenon of a culture literally drowning in entertainment of such a bewildering array of flavors and varieties that yes, it can mean that more sophisticated and thoughtful elements are more easily drowned out. So what it says about our society is: we have a competition for our attention, and it turns out certain types of media are extremely efficient at capturing it. Is this good or bad? It depends heavily on whether those 15 year olds were taught not merely to seek the easy entertainment when they were fifteen, but also to value more intellectual or challenging forms of entertainment (and note that the latter is critical, because for a lot of people from my ignored Gen X generation, it was often quite clear that the "entertainment" allowed to adults back in the day was actually not entertaining at all). </p><p></p><p>Our culture is, for better or worse depending on your point of view, moving away from the concept that being an adult means that entertainment (at least on the surface, as a matter of appearance) must not actually appear to be entertaining. This was always there in the past, it just wasn't allowed as a socially perceptible norm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Doctor Futurity, post: 7770740, member: 10738"] This part I bolded is you answering your own question to the next few.... It shows that the consumer market has changed dramatically over time, shifting away from an adult themed audience to a broader, more popular and younger audience. The adults who enjoy sophisticated films are still there, but those films don't cost millions in CGI effects to produce, while garnering (I bet) the same proportionate crowds they once did long ago. This isn't a case of the market leaving something behind (mature films), it's a case of the mature films remaining present while an entirely new market (sophisticated and expensive but high-return movies aimed at a general or young audience) has risen to absorb a demand previously unmet. Obviously this is a point of opinion but there are a lot of movies that do quite well, are not considered fringe/arthouse and are of the same caliber as Doctor Zhivago, if not superior. The interesting thing about the film industry today is that it supports more uniqure, niche audiences than it ever has before. The fact that the largest chunk of the money goes to broadly popular entertainment for 12 year olds, as you put it, is irrelevant to the fact that so much really quality content is out there. We are literally drowning in content, to be honest. It says that Football is extremely popular across the ages. Oh wait, you meant geek culture! Sorry. It says that sometimes people grow up enjoying things for arbitrary reasons, and the Gen X parents (of which I am one) were strongly indoctrinated into a new culture of consumer-driven culture, which has allowed us to assimilate a wide range of hobbies and interests that once were considered childish after a certain age, but are now regarded as normal and mainstream. At least part of this is the phenomenon of a culture literally drowning in entertainment of such a bewildering array of flavors and varieties that yes, it can mean that more sophisticated and thoughtful elements are more easily drowned out. So what it says about our society is: we have a competition for our attention, and it turns out certain types of media are extremely efficient at capturing it. Is this good or bad? It depends heavily on whether those 15 year olds were taught not merely to seek the easy entertainment when they were fifteen, but also to value more intellectual or challenging forms of entertainment (and note that the latter is critical, because for a lot of people from my ignored Gen X generation, it was often quite clear that the "entertainment" allowed to adults back in the day was actually not entertaining at all). Our culture is, for better or worse depending on your point of view, moving away from the concept that being an adult means that entertainment (at least on the surface, as a matter of appearance) must not actually appear to be entertaining. This was always there in the past, it just wasn't allowed as a socially perceptible norm. [/QUOTE]
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