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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 7770770" data-attributes="member: 57112">It's not about reading his mind and you know it. The rules for judicious editing to make a point are pretty damn well codified, and humans are deceptively good at reading between lines, between body language and obvious facial expressions (like Maher constantly mugging for the camera). But this is just me repeating myself because instead of arguing the legitimate points you created a strawman, low-hanging fruit to attack instead. Pretty weak sauce indeed.Wait... what type of behavior did we establish this was a prime example of again?This only makes Maher's trolling more indefensible. You're right in that some of these people are actually deranged to the point of being dangerous. Reducing them to "silly monkeys" to point and mock, which I argue is exactly what Maher is doing, is equally as dangerous because it makes us less likely to believe in the actual threat they can represent. Kind of like how most everyone treated incels as a joke until they started killing people.Again, I don't understand how you don't. Are you really trying to argue that this was a point presented neutrally, without comment, for the viewer to decide how they feel? Seriously?Except I don't disagree with it, which is something I have said multiple times and am actually starting to get frustrated with how often I'm forced to repeat it. My problem is not with the message at all. Organized religion is deeply problematic and damaging in a lot of significant and major ways. It is with the methods and tactics involved; namely, in this case, trolling. Maher is a troll. Religulous is trolling. And trolling is, at best, a worthless tactics (preaching to the choir, as it were, except being a <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> about it), and at worst is actively counterproductive.But the fact that you keep falling back on the same faulty suspicions which I've refuted time and time again, I can only conclude that the opposite is true; that you are refusing to see the trolling for what it is because you agree with it.</blockquote>

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