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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 7770871" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>To some extent, sure. </p><p></p><p>But the serial nature of superhero stories....especially the most successful and well known....essentially places them in a loop that always circles back around to the default starting story point. No matter what happens, things will eventually revert to the status quo. As such, continually enjoying such stories without eventually seeing the loop can be a bit odd. </p><p></p><p>They can take Spider-Man and tweak his origin, reveal his identity, kill Aunt May, and all kinds of other changes....and then boom, it's all back to the default status quo. </p><p></p><p>At any point in the loop, sure there are stretches that can be incredibly entertaining and creative and thoughtful. But taken as a whole, I can see how it can be viewed as a bit childish. It doesn't mean I'm perpetually a child if I still enjoy superhero stories, or that I can't enjoy other things. But I recognize it myself. I'll put down a comic and think "wow, I got nothing at all out of that....it's no different, and actually probably inferior to the stuff I read when I was 10". When I get that feeling, I stop buying the book in question. </p><p></p><p>Generally, I think a lot of it comes down to the creators involved, and what they choose to do, or sometimes more importantly what they are allowed to do, with the characters. </p><p></p><p>Again, I am not saying that Maher is right. Ultimately, he's wrong because he's conflating the genre and the medium. And then even taking his comments as they relate to the superhero genre, I think he mostly misses the mark, but I can at least understand the criticism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 7770871, member: 6785785"] To some extent, sure. But the serial nature of superhero stories....especially the most successful and well known....essentially places them in a loop that always circles back around to the default starting story point. No matter what happens, things will eventually revert to the status quo. As such, continually enjoying such stories without eventually seeing the loop can be a bit odd. They can take Spider-Man and tweak his origin, reveal his identity, kill Aunt May, and all kinds of other changes....and then boom, it's all back to the default status quo. At any point in the loop, sure there are stretches that can be incredibly entertaining and creative and thoughtful. But taken as a whole, I can see how it can be viewed as a bit childish. It doesn't mean I'm perpetually a child if I still enjoy superhero stories, or that I can't enjoy other things. But I recognize it myself. I'll put down a comic and think "wow, I got nothing at all out of that....it's no different, and actually probably inferior to the stuff I read when I was 10". When I get that feeling, I stop buying the book in question. Generally, I think a lot of it comes down to the creators involved, and what they choose to do, or sometimes more importantly what they are allowed to do, with the characters. Again, I am not saying that Maher is right. Ultimately, he's wrong because he's conflating the genre and the medium. And then even taking his comments as they relate to the superhero genre, I think he mostly misses the mark, but I can at least understand the criticism. [/QUOTE]
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