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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 4095077" data-attributes="member: 14159">For many of us, we've seen enough to know that we don't like it.  Even though we haven't  eseen it all, we dislike more of what we've seen of 4e than we dislike of whatever edition we prefer more.After all, Wizards has been trying to show us what is best about 4e, they are trying to sell us on it, to show us what is new and different.  When some of us read that advertising and realize it actually makes us less wanting to play the game than before we read it, that's a bad sign about us actually liking the game.  When the advertising for a product makes you desire that product less than before, that's bad.I'm sticking with 3.5, and I have plenty of reasons.1. It has enough of the classical feel elements of previous editions of D&D to have that critical D&D feel, elements that 4e has already gleefully chucked out and said weren't good to begin with.  Sacred cows were sacred to some of us for a reason.2. I already know 3.5 and don't have to re-learn a whole new game.  I don't really see the point in learning yet another RPG when I am quite happy with the existing ones.3. I already have dozens of 3.5 books, and I realized a couple of years ago I have enough books to game for decades.  In the last year I've bought only 5 D&D books, ones that I really wanted or got really good deals on.  Paying $120 for the 2008 model year D&D core books, then a DDI subscription every months, then another ~$120 for the next years D&D core books and so on until 5e comes out has no appeal to me whatsoever.4. The people I game with are also unenthused about 4e and have either felt offended by the 4e marketing saying that 3e was wrongbadfun, or don't like the idea that WotC now openly considers D&D a game that must have a new edition every few years so they figure there is no reason to buy 4e when 5e will come out in a few more years, or they just plain don't like what they've seen from the previews.  When the people I game with don't want to play 4e, then I've got no reason to switch over myself.5. I am much more of a simulationist and narritivist in terms of my D&D tastes.  The openly gamist structure of 4e over those play styles means that the underlying philosophy the game is designed on will conflict with what I want from a D&D edition.  3.5 may have been a little more gamist than other editions, but when balanced against some of it's strengths it still came out superior to me.Essentially, there are those of us out there who are not sold on the underlying concept that a new edition was needed, and haven't seen anything 3.5 might not be perfect: I don't like pokemounts, and I really don't like darkness spells that light up pitch-black rooms, but it's closer to my idea of perfection than any other edition.</blockquote>

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