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<blockquote data-quote="Akrasia" data-source="post: 8569196" data-attributes="member: 23012"><p>Interesting discussion. Some quick thoughts on the topic...</p><p></p><p>Given their relative simplicity, it's not surprising that B/X D&D and 0e D&D would serve as the foundations for many variants ("quasi-clones") and be popular among those who like to significantly tweak or house-rule their games. A game to which I contributed (<em>Crypts and Things</em>) uses S&W for this reason.</p><p></p><p>Also, one reason why some people try out older games is exhaustion with the rules "heaviness" of more recent editions (esp. during 3e and 4e DnD, when the OSR was especially robust). B/X and 0e (and games based on them) are going to satisfy the desire for "simpler" rules more than AD&D 1e (OSRIC) or even RC D&D.</p><p></p><p>IME players of AD&D generally do not want to modify the rules that much, at least not radically. Hence most of the products for OSRIC over the past 15 years have been modules -- and there's been <em>a lot </em>of them (I think more than any other OSR game). </p><p></p><p>The availability of the AD&D in POD may have undercut the demand for OSRIC somewhat. In contrast, B/X still is unavailable in POD.</p><p></p><p>Finally, regarding S&W, there are different versions that different groups find appealing: "White Box" S&W (the 3 "brown books" with combat rules), "Core" S&W (0e BBs + Greyhawk), and "Complete" (0e + things from all the supplements). By the time you get to "Complete" S&W, though, you're pretty close to AD&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Akrasia, post: 8569196, member: 23012"] Interesting discussion. Some quick thoughts on the topic... Given their relative simplicity, it's not surprising that B/X D&D and 0e D&D would serve as the foundations for many variants ("quasi-clones") and be popular among those who like to significantly tweak or house-rule their games. A game to which I contributed ([I]Crypts and Things[/I]) uses S&W for this reason. Also, one reason why some people try out older games is exhaustion with the rules "heaviness" of more recent editions (esp. during 3e and 4e DnD, when the OSR was especially robust). B/X and 0e (and games based on them) are going to satisfy the desire for "simpler" rules more than AD&D 1e (OSRIC) or even RC D&D. IME players of AD&D generally do not want to modify the rules that much, at least not radically. Hence most of the products for OSRIC over the past 15 years have been modules -- and there's been [I]a lot [/I]of them (I think more than any other OSR game). The availability of the AD&D in POD may have undercut the demand for OSRIC somewhat. In contrast, B/X still is unavailable in POD. Finally, regarding S&W, there are different versions that different groups find appealing: "White Box" S&W (the 3 "brown books" with combat rules), "Core" S&W (0e BBs + Greyhawk), and "Complete" (0e + things from all the supplements). By the time you get to "Complete" S&W, though, you're pretty close to AD&D. [/QUOTE]
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