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<blockquote data-quote="IronWolf" data-source="post: 5558130" data-attributes="member: 21076"><p>Pure speculation, but I suspect the Pathfinder Beginner set will have a lot trimmed out without changing the essence of the rules. Since it only goes to level five they can cut out a large number of feats and spells to save room. Essentially helping reduce the sheer size of the core rulebook into something that isn't so intimidating to a new RPG player. </p><p></p><p>I suspect the initial number of available classes will be reduced to a smaller number as well. As much to reduce the intimidating size of the rulebook as much as anything else. While more seasoned RPG players want options for their characters, those new to the RPG world will have more than enough options just with "core" classes and base options to get started.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't be surprised to see future Pathfinder products to at least suggest compatability with the Beginner Box if they happen to be early levels 1 through 5. So in that regards I think they can release supporting products that can easily be used by Beginner Box owners and by people playing with the full rules. I suspect the two will be compatable enough to allow me to generate a character from the full core rules and APG and still play with someone that has generated a character from the Beginner Box alone.</p><p></p><p>I do not think they will move into a realm of trying to support two sets of rules at the same time. It splits resources when all they really need is a way to make entry to the game easier.</p><p></p><p>As for the product being random, I don't see that. A lot of folks both here on these boards and on the Paizo boards have been asking for something like this before it was announced. Certainly a product to fill a certain niche, but one that was asked for.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am one that thinks the hurdle to a new player to Pathfinder with no RPG experience is too high for a new player. So I spend $50 on a core rulebook. First, it is huge and intimidating (to a new player), it has no monsters to actually fight, I have no idea about creating an adventure and I have no dice. Or, I see this Beginner Box and now I have a smaller book of rules, monsters to work with, starter adventures, a flip mat and tokens. To someone new to the game, which is more attractive? A big $50 rule book that doesn't include everything I need to get started or a $35 box set that I can take home and get started with right away?</p><p></p><p>Is this product going to hook people that have no idea what an RPG is? Likely not, but those people weren't likely to play RPGs anyways. This product *can* help hook people that are looking to play an RPG and get started and just looking for a way to get a start. We were all new to RPGs at one point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IronWolf, post: 5558130, member: 21076"] Pure speculation, but I suspect the Pathfinder Beginner set will have a lot trimmed out without changing the essence of the rules. Since it only goes to level five they can cut out a large number of feats and spells to save room. Essentially helping reduce the sheer size of the core rulebook into something that isn't so intimidating to a new RPG player. I suspect the initial number of available classes will be reduced to a smaller number as well. As much to reduce the intimidating size of the rulebook as much as anything else. While more seasoned RPG players want options for their characters, those new to the RPG world will have more than enough options just with "core" classes and base options to get started. I wouldn't be surprised to see future Pathfinder products to at least suggest compatability with the Beginner Box if they happen to be early levels 1 through 5. So in that regards I think they can release supporting products that can easily be used by Beginner Box owners and by people playing with the full rules. I suspect the two will be compatable enough to allow me to generate a character from the full core rules and APG and still play with someone that has generated a character from the Beginner Box alone. I do not think they will move into a realm of trying to support two sets of rules at the same time. It splits resources when all they really need is a way to make entry to the game easier. As for the product being random, I don't see that. A lot of folks both here on these boards and on the Paizo boards have been asking for something like this before it was announced. Certainly a product to fill a certain niche, but one that was asked for. I am one that thinks the hurdle to a new player to Pathfinder with no RPG experience is too high for a new player. So I spend $50 on a core rulebook. First, it is huge and intimidating (to a new player), it has no monsters to actually fight, I have no idea about creating an adventure and I have no dice. Or, I see this Beginner Box and now I have a smaller book of rules, monsters to work with, starter adventures, a flip mat and tokens. To someone new to the game, which is more attractive? A big $50 rule book that doesn't include everything I need to get started or a $35 box set that I can take home and get started with right away? Is this product going to hook people that have no idea what an RPG is? Likely not, but those people weren't likely to play RPGs anyways. This product *can* help hook people that are looking to play an RPG and get started and just looking for a way to get a start. We were all new to RPGs at one point. [/QUOTE]
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