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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 5573466" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>I still think they wold be better off giving a set of simpler and more basic rules that provide unlimited play to entice new customers into their Pathfinder lines of products.</p><p></p><p>I can only assume they will be fine with the small numbers they will get with a game going only to level 5. The majority of their sales will go to people who already have the main rule books, and we will use those main rule books to introduce the vast majority of new players to Pathfinder. Why? Because we normally only recruit one or two new people at a time, and they are indoctrinated through the rules set the rest of the group is already using.</p><p></p><p>So the whole purpose of this product, to draw completely new people in, will likely be as small as it has always been. Why? Because people don't like buying a "partial" game. We don't buy introductory versions of Monopoly, or Dungeons and Dragons, etc.... except maybe as a novelty. We all buy and play the full and real deal.</p><p></p><p>So if they really want this product to be truly different that the previous products, and to provide more sales and new customers base than the previous versions of this product concept, then they need to be truly different.</p><p></p><p>As it is they offer a couple of more levels of play, and give some cool looking bells and whistles, so is at its core the exact same product that has been offered many times before. They are going to get nearly identical results to every single one of those products as well. Which is sell the majority of the product to people already playing the game, and get very few truly new people, or groups of people, joining the ranks through this product.</p><p></p><p>Paizo has been ground breaking in a lot of ways, People said they were nuts to even start up the Pathfinder game. They were nuts to offer $10 PDF's (people still say they are nuts for this). So I was hoping/expecting yet another ground breaking approach to this type of product. I'm just sort of disappointed that Paizo opted to go the same old "done and done again" route.</p><p></p><p>Oh well. I'll still be like many of you, give Paizo the vast majority of their sales on this product, read it over, likely pull out the cool gizmo's to use with my real rules set, and put this box with its little rule books up on the book shelf, never to be used.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 5573466, member: 10177"] I still think they wold be better off giving a set of simpler and more basic rules that provide unlimited play to entice new customers into their Pathfinder lines of products. I can only assume they will be fine with the small numbers they will get with a game going only to level 5. The majority of their sales will go to people who already have the main rule books, and we will use those main rule books to introduce the vast majority of new players to Pathfinder. Why? Because we normally only recruit one or two new people at a time, and they are indoctrinated through the rules set the rest of the group is already using. So the whole purpose of this product, to draw completely new people in, will likely be as small as it has always been. Why? Because people don't like buying a "partial" game. We don't buy introductory versions of Monopoly, or Dungeons and Dragons, etc.... except maybe as a novelty. We all buy and play the full and real deal. So if they really want this product to be truly different that the previous products, and to provide more sales and new customers base than the previous versions of this product concept, then they need to be truly different. As it is they offer a couple of more levels of play, and give some cool looking bells and whistles, so is at its core the exact same product that has been offered many times before. They are going to get nearly identical results to every single one of those products as well. Which is sell the majority of the product to people already playing the game, and get very few truly new people, or groups of people, joining the ranks through this product. Paizo has been ground breaking in a lot of ways, People said they were nuts to even start up the Pathfinder game. They were nuts to offer $10 PDF's (people still say they are nuts for this). So I was hoping/expecting yet another ground breaking approach to this type of product. I'm just sort of disappointed that Paizo opted to go the same old "done and done again" route. Oh well. I'll still be like many of you, give Paizo the vast majority of their sales on this product, read it over, likely pull out the cool gizmo's to use with my real rules set, and put this box with its little rule books up on the book shelf, never to be used. [/QUOTE]
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