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<blockquote data-quote="Aulirophile" data-source="post: 5406511" data-attributes="member: 86312"><p>No, but it has (minor) issues. Your first defense feat should be Light Shield Prof, because it gives you +1 AC (just like Scale vs Chain) and +1 Ref. For the same reason going up to Heavy Shield Prof after that would be better then Scale if you still wanted to buff defenses. This naturally assumes a 1h weapon, if you want to go with a 2her Scale prof is the obvious choice. Either way picking up Dwarven Weapon Training at some point will be good. </p><p></p><p>A crossbow is useless, it uses Dex for the attack/damage roll when you make an RBA with it. A couple of heavy thrown are a better option (albeit with shorter range). Hand axes or throwing hammers. Get a magical one as a back-up weapon eventually, it returns to your hand after throwing it. </p><p></p><p>There is so much Wis support now you can actually make a fairly amazing Melee Cleric who is completely Wis-based. Most of the riders are Cha based, but many are just Wis based. The following build allows you to get the epic crit feat with axes, and at level 8 you can pick up one of the weapons that also acts as a Holy Symbol. Can grab Heavy Shield Prof at Paragon. Your Fort and Ref will be a little low starting mid-Heroic, but with Improved Defenses and a Belt/Boots that boost Ref/Fort (and those are extremely common) they'll be fine. You can also get both Scale, Plate, and Plate Specialization if you want to invest the feats for ridiculous AC. Switch to an Executioner's Axe if you want to go 2h and pick up Scale and then Plate at Paragon.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and you can pick up a Ranged At-Will once you get a weapon that acts as a Holy Symbol, giving you a good option for ranged buffing or healing or damage or save granting (take your pick). </p><p> </p><p>If you've decided to go Cleric I'd read this thread.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19648946/Holy_Smoke_A_Clerics_Handbook" target="_blank">Whoops! Browser Settings Incompatible</a></p><p></p><p>====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======</p><p>level 3</p><p>Dwarf, Cleric</p><p>Build: Battle Cleric</p><p></p><p>FINAL ABILITY SCORES</p><p>Str 14, Con 15, Dex 10, Int 8, Wis 18, Cha 14.</p><p></p><p>STARTING ABILITY SCORES</p><p>Str 14, Con 13, Dex 10, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 14.</p><p></p><p></p><p>AC: 19 Fort: 14 Reflex: 13 Will: 18</p><p>HP: 37 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 9</p><p></p><p>TRAINED SKILLS</p><p>Religion +5, History +5, Insight +10, Heal +10</p><p></p><p>UNTRAINED SKILLS</p><p>Acrobatics, Arcana, Bluff +3, Diplomacy +3, Dungeoneering +7, Endurance +5, Intimidate +3, Nature +5, Perception +5, Stealth, Streetwise +3, Thievery, Athletics +2</p><p></p><p>FEATS</p><p>Cleric: Ritual Caster</p><p>Level 1: Shield Proficiency: Light</p><p>Level 2: Dwarven Weapon Training</p><p></p><p>POWERS</p><p>Channel Divinity: Healer's Mercy</p><p>Cleric at-will 1: Sonnlinor's Hammer</p><p>Cleric at-will 1: Brand of the Sun</p><p>Cleric encounter 1: Sun Burst</p><p>Cleric daily 1: Nimbus of Holy Shielding</p><p>Cleric utility 2: Angelic Witnesses</p><p>Cleric encounter 3: Resurgent Sun</p><p></p><p>ITEMS</p><p>Ritual Book, Light Shield, Dwarven Chainmail +1, Healer's Brooch +1, Quick Waraxe +1</p><p>RITUALS</p><p>Gentle Repose, Comrades' Succor</p><p>====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ======</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aulirophile, post: 5406511, member: 86312"] No, but it has (minor) issues. Your first defense feat should be Light Shield Prof, because it gives you +1 AC (just like Scale vs Chain) and +1 Ref. For the same reason going up to Heavy Shield Prof after that would be better then Scale if you still wanted to buff defenses. This naturally assumes a 1h weapon, if you want to go with a 2her Scale prof is the obvious choice. Either way picking up Dwarven Weapon Training at some point will be good. A crossbow is useless, it uses Dex for the attack/damage roll when you make an RBA with it. A couple of heavy thrown are a better option (albeit with shorter range). Hand axes or throwing hammers. Get a magical one as a back-up weapon eventually, it returns to your hand after throwing it. There is so much Wis support now you can actually make a fairly amazing Melee Cleric who is completely Wis-based. Most of the riders are Cha based, but many are just Wis based. The following build allows you to get the epic crit feat with axes, and at level 8 you can pick up one of the weapons that also acts as a Holy Symbol. Can grab Heavy Shield Prof at Paragon. Your Fort and Ref will be a little low starting mid-Heroic, but with Improved Defenses and a Belt/Boots that boost Ref/Fort (and those are extremely common) they'll be fine. You can also get both Scale, Plate, and Plate Specialization if you want to invest the feats for ridiculous AC. Switch to an Executioner's Axe if you want to go 2h and pick up Scale and then Plate at Paragon. Oh, and you can pick up a Ranged At-Will once you get a weapon that acts as a Holy Symbol, giving you a good option for ranged buffing or healing or damage or save granting (take your pick). If you've decided to go Cleric I'd read this thread. [url=http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19648946/Holy_Smoke_A_Clerics_Handbook]Whoops! Browser Settings Incompatible[/url] ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ====== level 3 Dwarf, Cleric Build: Battle Cleric FINAL ABILITY SCORES Str 14, Con 15, Dex 10, Int 8, Wis 18, Cha 14. STARTING ABILITY SCORES Str 14, Con 13, Dex 10, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 14. AC: 19 Fort: 14 Reflex: 13 Will: 18 HP: 37 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 9 TRAINED SKILLS Religion +5, History +5, Insight +10, Heal +10 UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics, Arcana, Bluff +3, Diplomacy +3, Dungeoneering +7, Endurance +5, Intimidate +3, Nature +5, Perception +5, Stealth, Streetwise +3, Thievery, Athletics +2 FEATS Cleric: Ritual Caster Level 1: Shield Proficiency: Light Level 2: Dwarven Weapon Training POWERS Channel Divinity: Healer's Mercy Cleric at-will 1: Sonnlinor's Hammer Cleric at-will 1: Brand of the Sun Cleric encounter 1: Sun Burst Cleric daily 1: Nimbus of Holy Shielding Cleric utility 2: Angelic Witnesses Cleric encounter 3: Resurgent Sun ITEMS Ritual Book, Light Shield, Dwarven Chainmail +1, Healer's Brooch +1, Quick Waraxe +1 RITUALS Gentle Repose, Comrades' Succor ====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ====== [/QUOTE]
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