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<blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7381384" data-attributes="member: 6895991"><p>[MENTION=60210]jaelis[/MENTION] #220 I disagree partially, [MENTION=58172]Yaarel[/MENTION] has at least found a solution for the Dilemma by houseruling it. </p><p></p><p>Let us formulate the key Points of the Topic one more time:</p><p></p><p>1. Long sword wielded 2 handed (versatile) is inferior to other 2 handed weapons especially for GWM, unless of course you are using a shield from time to time.</p><p></p><p>2. Elves and Rogues are per Default proficient in Longsword but both are often Dex heavy, which makes Finesse Qualities of 5E redundant/ in oposition to this proficiency.</p><p></p><p>So we want to resolve that as Close to RAW as possible:</p><p></p><p>For 1. i see no easy way out, other than those fluff houserules i did post in several postings above. (Remember fluff does not alter game mechanics)</p><p></p><p>For 2. and staying Close to RAW the only solution i see is give rogues and elves rapier proficiency instead of Long sword (ok rogues already got that). </p><p>For those arguing that i take away something by this, keep in mind that no elf warrior is barred from putting Points in strength and wield some heavy weapon instead (Although i normally houserule that he is, because an elf wielding a two handed axe looks like ... to my inner eye, but thats of no concern here)</p><p></p><p>Rogues who want to go a strength build otoh are propably much better of to select quarterstaff PM, so for these it' is not taking away anything serious also.</p><p></p><p>All the other Solutions which wanted to see 2 handed weapon Finesse heavy weapon master elf wizards wielding Longsword based purely on dex : this is much much further away from RAW than all the proposals i did make.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coroc, post: 7381384, member: 6895991"] [MENTION=60210]jaelis[/MENTION] #220 I disagree partially, [MENTION=58172]Yaarel[/MENTION] has at least found a solution for the Dilemma by houseruling it. Let us formulate the key Points of the Topic one more time: 1. Long sword wielded 2 handed (versatile) is inferior to other 2 handed weapons especially for GWM, unless of course you are using a shield from time to time. 2. Elves and Rogues are per Default proficient in Longsword but both are often Dex heavy, which makes Finesse Qualities of 5E redundant/ in oposition to this proficiency. So we want to resolve that as Close to RAW as possible: For 1. i see no easy way out, other than those fluff houserules i did post in several postings above. (Remember fluff does not alter game mechanics) For 2. and staying Close to RAW the only solution i see is give rogues and elves rapier proficiency instead of Long sword (ok rogues already got that). For those arguing that i take away something by this, keep in mind that no elf warrior is barred from putting Points in strength and wield some heavy weapon instead (Although i normally houserule that he is, because an elf wielding a two handed axe looks like ... to my inner eye, but thats of no concern here) Rogues who want to go a strength build otoh are propably much better of to select quarterstaff PM, so for these it' is not taking away anything serious also. All the other Solutions which wanted to see 2 handed weapon Finesse heavy weapon master elf wizards wielding Longsword based purely on dex : this is much much further away from RAW than all the proposals i did make. [/QUOTE]
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