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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6572965" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>I very much agree with all of that. I'm curious what you think about something. Why exactly did people (especially folks who were clearly AD&D fans) work so hard to dissuade the notion that 5e was a modernized extension of the AD&D line? </p><p></p><p>Part of me sort of looks at the playtest through the prism that it was, in many ways, just a competing effort of various preferences/cultures to control messaging to the designers/the narrative of the playtest such that the "core" (presumably "the spirit of D&D) was theirs. The big tent thing and the bringing all of the D&D cultures together was front and center, full-court-press at the advent of the playtest. So when one group would seem like they were getting catered to specifically, that group would work breathlessly to obfuscate or outright denounce that narrative. You were either wrong or your playstyle/preferences would easily be attainable via the deep stock of robust modules that would be just around the bend in post-core releases....so stop being a chicken little, whiny crybaby!</p><p></p><p>Call me a cynic, but it looked like OH GOD NO DON'T EXPOSE THE AD&DNESS OF THIS RULESET bunker mentality (for fear that it would be overturned via a cascade of complaints/revolt) during the playtest...and now that its over its more like HELL YEAH AD&D3E (!) or <span style="font-size: 9px"><sheepish, quiet brofist, tee-hee></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6572965, member: 6696971"] I very much agree with all of that. I'm curious what you think about something. Why exactly did people (especially folks who were clearly AD&D fans) work so hard to dissuade the notion that 5e was a modernized extension of the AD&D line? Part of me sort of looks at the playtest through the prism that it was, in many ways, just a competing effort of various preferences/cultures to control messaging to the designers/the narrative of the playtest such that the "core" (presumably "the spirit of D&D) was theirs. The big tent thing and the bringing all of the D&D cultures together was front and center, full-court-press at the advent of the playtest. So when one group would seem like they were getting catered to specifically, that group would work breathlessly to obfuscate or outright denounce that narrative. You were either wrong or your playstyle/preferences would easily be attainable via the deep stock of robust modules that would be just around the bend in post-core releases....so stop being a chicken little, whiny crybaby! Call me a cynic, but it looked like OH GOD NO DON'T EXPOSE THE AD&DNESS OF THIS RULESET bunker mentality (for fear that it would be overturned via a cascade of complaints/revolt) during the playtest...and now that its over its more like HELL YEAH AD&D3E (!) or [SIZE=1]<sheepish, quiet brofist, tee-hee>[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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