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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6575181" data-attributes="member: 48965">Okay but performance (This is what I'm assuming you are talking about since there is no actual Perform skill) states the following description in the PHB...Your Charisma(Performance) check determines how well you can delight an audience with music, dance, acting, storytelling, or some other form of entertainment...This seems to be a more broad skill set than proficiency with one instrument... thus it exists to represent your proficiency with a single instrument.  As to which one applies...If he's playing the instrument he's proficient in...it's whichever one the PC wants...  However in any other circumstance, including a different instrument or any other type of performance, it's the performance proficiency... it doesn't seem that hard or confusing to me since prof. bonuses don't stack in 5e... is there a situation here I'm not accounting for?As for your question on thieve's skills... again I'm not understanding the ambiguity... Thieve's tools in the PHB clearly state..."Proficiency with these tools lets you add your proficiency bonus to any ability checks you make to disarm traps or open locks."So it seems pretty clear what this does... and yes you can try without proficiency in the tools otherwise it would state that you couldn't... but you do not get to add your prof bonus to the check... again, what is the ambiguity?  And what are the traditional thief abilities that are not covered in 5e?Oh, I agree with you about the mapping of the Investigation skill, it is a broad based skill... in the same way that Arcana in 4e doesn't map to a specific action... or Perception in 4e and 5e account for numerous ways of noticing things... but again I'm unclear on what the actual issue is.  Investigation is broadly defined as noticing clues and making deductions.  IMO it's an insight skill for situations or physical objects as opposed to being for people...  When do I use it?  When there are clues from which information could be deduced... though I think most players will let you know when they want to use it...Is it quite clear?? What skill do I use in 4e to deceive someone?  How about the question you posed earlier...if I wanted to disable a trap... do I need tools... do they just give me a +2 or can I just use the Thievery skill without them?</blockquote>

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