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<blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 6575522" data-attributes="member: 6688277"><p>What I'm distilling from the above explanations is, as soon as the player/s choice involves dice and you ignore it, that is illusionism, but if the player/s choice does not require dice then everything is hunky-dory. With all due respect, but it sounds like the definition of illusionism is in fact an illusion by those who claim to define it. </p><p></p><p>Based on what has been described, any/all decisions taken by a player without dice are not as important as the ones which rely on dice. If the choice exists to take the left or right passage but leads to the same result why bother even offering the choice to the PC? </p><p></p><p>I remember @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=87792" target="_blank">Neonchameleon</a></u></strong></em>, during a player authorship discussion, telling me that if a character wanted to inject a rock in a story he could without the "yes" from the DM to cut time, well in this case I'm saying if you want to railroad the characters to a planned encounter just do it and cut time, instead of giving the PCs the illusion that their decision to go left or right matters.</p><p>Instead use the narrative of the journey to the planned encounter to produce the colour desired.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sadras, post: 6575522, member: 6688277"] What I'm distilling from the above explanations is, as soon as the player/s choice involves dice and you ignore it, that is illusionism, but if the player/s choice does not require dice then everything is hunky-dory. With all due respect, but it sounds like the definition of illusionism is in fact an illusion by those who claim to define it. Based on what has been described, any/all decisions taken by a player without dice are not as important as the ones which rely on dice. If the choice exists to take the left or right passage but leads to the same result why bother even offering the choice to the PC? I remember @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=87792"]Neonchameleon[/URL][/U][/B][/I], during a player authorship discussion, telling me that if a character wanted to inject a rock in a story he could without the "yes" from the DM to cut time, well in this case I'm saying if you want to railroad the characters to a planned encounter just do it and cut time, instead of giving the PCs the illusion that their decision to go left or right matters. Instead use the narrative of the journey to the planned encounter to produce the colour desired. [/QUOTE]
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