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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6575983" data-attributes="member: 996">It's a little less impractical the more familiar the stats are to all involved, and the smaller or simpler to add the modifiers.&nbsp; D&amp;D has an advantage in most of its players having long familiarity with the stats.&nbsp; For pre-calculating, I suppose you could have a matrix with training on one axis and stats on the other.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;Customizeability does seem to inevitably include design compromises in a class/level system, yes.&nbsp;One issue is that if you want a fairly complete, clear/balanced/playable sort of system, you want to focus on what the characters can accomplish (because, as a DM, you are putting challenges in their way, and because for anything you might accomplish in an RPG, there are a /lot/ of ways to accomplish it), than on the minutiae of how they might accomplish it.&nbsp; Skill systems by their nature, tend more on the kinds of things you can do, than what you accomplish by doing them.&nbsp; Rather than have hide in cover, move silently, camouflage, woodcraft, shadowing, and a variety of other skills that might help you avoid detection, you'd have a &quot;hidden&quot; result, and the character's details would influence /how/ he becomes hidden (hide behind something, act like he belongs there, cast an invisibility spell, flick on his SEP field).&nbsp; In 4e terms, &quot;skill&quot; might be more like a Source that applied in exploration &amp; interaction.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6575983, member: 996"] It's a little less impractical the more familiar the stats are to all involved, and the smaller or simpler to add the modifiers. D&D has an advantage in most of its players having long familiarity with the stats. For pre-calculating, I suppose you could have a matrix with training on one axis and stats on the other. ;) Customizeability does seem to inevitably include design compromises in a class/level system, yes. One issue is that if you want a fairly complete, clear/balanced/playable sort of system, you want to focus on what the characters can accomplish (because, as a DM, you are putting challenges in their way, and because for anything you might accomplish in an RPG, there are a /lot/ of ways to accomplish it), than on the minutiae of how they might accomplish it. Skill systems by their nature, tend more on the kinds of things you can do, than what you accomplish by doing them. Rather than have hide in cover, move silently, camouflage, woodcraft, shadowing, and a variety of other skills that might help you avoid detection, you'd have a "hidden" result, and the character's details would influence /how/ he becomes hidden (hide behind something, act like he belongs there, cast an invisibility spell, flick on his SEP field). In 4e terms, "skill" might be more like a Source that applied in exploration & interaction. [/QUOTE]

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