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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6579455" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Yeah, I found the whole 'conflict is bad' comment amusing too. I think its just that [MENTION=6775031]Saelorn[/MENTION] doesn't realize that what RPGs are doing is a form of story-telling, and all stories have conflict. Every tale has a protagonist and an antagonist, and the protagonist has some dramatic need which can only be met by overcoming the antagonist. Even simple dungeon crawls have this structure. The characters need money, fame, power, and the dungeon is in their way of getting it, so its the party against the dungeon. Every single thing that happens in any RPG is framed in dramatic conflict, which is why a system that recognizes that and is structured around it is going to provide the most overall successful type of RP experience. It may not be the 'best game' for every person to play, OD&D might produce better dungeon crawls, but OD&D can't do ANYTHING else well at all. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That I say 'Amen!' to brother. I can't go back, in fact I personally can't even go 'back' to 5e. I can play it if its "here's what the group you want to play with does" but its not the cause of a better game, and I won't GM it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6579455, member: 82106"] Yeah, I found the whole 'conflict is bad' comment amusing too. I think its just that [MENTION=6775031]Saelorn[/MENTION] doesn't realize that what RPGs are doing is a form of story-telling, and all stories have conflict. Every tale has a protagonist and an antagonist, and the protagonist has some dramatic need which can only be met by overcoming the antagonist. Even simple dungeon crawls have this structure. The characters need money, fame, power, and the dungeon is in their way of getting it, so its the party against the dungeon. Every single thing that happens in any RPG is framed in dramatic conflict, which is why a system that recognizes that and is structured around it is going to provide the most overall successful type of RP experience. It may not be the 'best game' for every person to play, OD&D might produce better dungeon crawls, but OD&D can't do ANYTHING else well at all. That I say 'Amen!' to brother. I can't go back, in fact I personally can't even go 'back' to 5e. I can play it if its "here's what the group you want to play with does" but its not the cause of a better game, and I won't GM it. [/QUOTE]
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