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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6579484" data-attributes="member: 82106">I don't know. I tried Stalker0's system, and I monkeyed around with a few other people with maps and tracks and etc. But you know what we found? That these things might all be 'better strategy games', but they were EVEN FURTHER removed from the logic of the narrative at hand. The SC system is simple and dramatic, 3 strikes and you're out. It doesn't have an elaborate structure that needs to be somehow mapped onto something. I just don't see how in your example of the Diaspora system you can really relate the narrative easily to pushing 'groups' along tracks. And even assuming this particular challenge was well suited to the narrative (maybe it is, we don't know much about the narrative) but is it really generalizable? That's the thing with the SC system as-written, or many similar variations, its simple and generalizable. Stalker0's system also was pretty generalizable, but what I found was it wasn't materially a 'better mapping', they're all a BIT abstract. You just have to learn how to run these things. Failures might represent loss of resources, or increasing opposition, or passing time, or etc. but there's always something. Every narrative has something vital that the protagonist must accomplish and they can get nearer to or further from accomplishing it. This makes the default system actually pretty powerful. Most of what it needs is really good exposition, and the 4e DMGs and RC never QUITE got there.</blockquote>

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