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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6579783" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Its the same as every other encounter or challenge in a game. The DM doesn't HAVE to present any challenges at all, he could just say "Ok, you wander in the dungeon for 5 hours and pick up the following loot..." or whatever. Doubt it would be a popular game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Given that the DM IS going to make things challenging, then its only a question of HOW, and is it going to be dramatic or what. </p><p></p><p>The other thing is, an SC is no more compulsory than other encounters. If the PCs can opt out of a combat encounter, albeit at the cost of removing some options from the table, then so can they do the same with an SC. Maybe the goblins are invading the town, you can go to the goblin lair and fight the goblins there, seek an audience with the goblin king, or try to sneak out of the area and alert the Duke to send his men to try to drive off the goblins. 2 of those are probably at least one SC, and probably some combat as well, but the players aren't forced to take on any one given SC. Even if they sneak out of town, maybe they decide not to sneak when the goblin patrol comes near, maybe they just leap out of the hay pile and take 'em instead. There's always some choice, unless the game is a total railroad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6579783, member: 82106"] Its the same as every other encounter or challenge in a game. The DM doesn't HAVE to present any challenges at all, he could just say "Ok, you wander in the dungeon for 5 hours and pick up the following loot..." or whatever. Doubt it would be a popular game. ;) Given that the DM IS going to make things challenging, then its only a question of HOW, and is it going to be dramatic or what. The other thing is, an SC is no more compulsory than other encounters. If the PCs can opt out of a combat encounter, albeit at the cost of removing some options from the table, then so can they do the same with an SC. Maybe the goblins are invading the town, you can go to the goblin lair and fight the goblins there, seek an audience with the goblin king, or try to sneak out of the area and alert the Duke to send his men to try to drive off the goblins. 2 of those are probably at least one SC, and probably some combat as well, but the players aren't forced to take on any one given SC. Even if they sneak out of town, maybe they decide not to sneak when the goblin patrol comes near, maybe they just leap out of the hay pile and take 'em instead. There's always some choice, unless the game is a total railroad. [/QUOTE]
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