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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6580367" data-attributes="member: 6775031"><p>I'm probably over-stating my case, yeah. For example, I can see some room for players to contribute in world-building, where it might actually improve the game rather than detract from it.</p><p></p><p>When you place them on the map, you're saying that they'll be there <em>regardless</em> of what the players do. When you roll randomly, you're saying that you don't care whether or not the players encounter these monsters. </p><p></p><p>Those aren't necessarily in conflict with each other, but they tend to be.</p><p></p><p>Those things are not equivalent. Just because we're pointing the camera at this particular group of people, who might be in the right position to do something big and important, it doesn't mean the world is out to get them.</p><p></p><p>At some point, if the PCs actually <em>do</em> accomplish something important, then opposing <em>NPCs</em> might take action to stop them. Not because the PCs tend to find themselves in improbable situations, but due to real choices that the players have made.</p><p></p><p>You didn't earn it, at all, if it was set up for you. The DM has arranged these convenient monsters and bandits and usurpers for you to overcome. That's not to say that it's necessarily easy to overcome them, but that's the reason why they are there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 6580367, member: 6775031"] I'm probably over-stating my case, yeah. For example, I can see some room for players to contribute in world-building, where it might actually improve the game rather than detract from it. When you place them on the map, you're saying that they'll be there [I]regardless[/I] of what the players do. When you roll randomly, you're saying that you don't care whether or not the players encounter these monsters. Those aren't necessarily in conflict with each other, but they tend to be. Those things are not equivalent. Just because we're pointing the camera at this particular group of people, who might be in the right position to do something big and important, it doesn't mean the world is out to get them. At some point, if the PCs actually [I]do[/I] accomplish something important, then opposing [I]NPCs[/I] might take action to stop them. Not because the PCs tend to find themselves in improbable situations, but due to real choices that the players have made. You didn't earn it, at all, if it was set up for you. The DM has arranged these convenient monsters and bandits and usurpers for you to overcome. That's not to say that it's necessarily easy to overcome them, but that's the reason why they are there. [/QUOTE]
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