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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6585434" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Yeah, the item thing... I just decided right off almost that the whole concept of 'parcels' and a fixed progression of treasure and items was antithetical to at least my style of play. For one thing it HUGELY undermines the 'take a bigger risk, get a bigger reward' concept. I mean so what if you were level 1 and you all took on 5 level 5 encounters and beat them? You still get 5 level 1 treasure parcels by the rules! </p><p></p><p>Not only that but the whole CONCEPT of 'treasure parcels' where the players can simply bank on that they get N wealth per level and M wealth in their 1-30 career is poison to me. Isn't half the fun to win vast treasures and lose them again? To gamble huge stakes on incredibly thin odds and then pull it off? The whole treasure system of 4e fundamentally undermines it all. </p><p></p><p>I mean, I get it, we all played in that Monte Haul game back in 1982 or whenever and rolled our eyes at the absurdity of it all. We all saw how you could build infinity CLW wands in 3.5 and bypass the whole hit point economy. Yeah, we get it. I don't care. I mean its fine that there's a 'rule' that tells me what the designer's of the game thought about, I'm all for that, but treasure and items in my game are a much less structured thing. </p><p></p><p>For one thing, I can't be bothered to keep track of all those damned parcels anyway. I hate the very notion of anything that smells like accounting getting into my fun. Fact is, you can just give stuff away, and the game really won't break. I guess if you give the level 5 PCs a million gold they'll probably do something silly that will make you slap your head, like brew 500 gallons of tanglefoot or something, but within reason things are going to be OK.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6585434, member: 82106"] Yeah, the item thing... I just decided right off almost that the whole concept of 'parcels' and a fixed progression of treasure and items was antithetical to at least my style of play. For one thing it HUGELY undermines the 'take a bigger risk, get a bigger reward' concept. I mean so what if you were level 1 and you all took on 5 level 5 encounters and beat them? You still get 5 level 1 treasure parcels by the rules! Not only that but the whole CONCEPT of 'treasure parcels' where the players can simply bank on that they get N wealth per level and M wealth in their 1-30 career is poison to me. Isn't half the fun to win vast treasures and lose them again? To gamble huge stakes on incredibly thin odds and then pull it off? The whole treasure system of 4e fundamentally undermines it all. I mean, I get it, we all played in that Monte Haul game back in 1982 or whenever and rolled our eyes at the absurdity of it all. We all saw how you could build infinity CLW wands in 3.5 and bypass the whole hit point economy. Yeah, we get it. I don't care. I mean its fine that there's a 'rule' that tells me what the designer's of the game thought about, I'm all for that, but treasure and items in my game are a much less structured thing. For one thing, I can't be bothered to keep track of all those damned parcels anyway. I hate the very notion of anything that smells like accounting getting into my fun. Fact is, you can just give stuff away, and the game really won't break. I guess if you give the level 5 PCs a million gold they'll probably do something silly that will make you slap your head, like brew 500 gallons of tanglefoot or something, but within reason things are going to be OK. [/QUOTE]
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