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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6589301" data-attributes="member: 42582">I don't really understand. I asserted that certain choices are not meaningful. You asked why. I answered - they are not full of either value or purpose. They are causally connected to possible outcomes in the fiction, but no more so than a random choice, a die roll, or my cat walking across the piano keyboard.You think a sufficient condition for &quot;meaningfulness&quot; is causal connection to an output. I think that, in the context of game play, a choice is only meaningful for the player when it somehow expresses or reflects the player's input.If you're not interested in further discussion about what is or isn't significant in the context of RPGing that's your prerogative, but I don't see how you can complain about my answer to your question. I've explained what I mean by &quot;meaningful choice&quot;, and it's not a terribly idiosyncratic usage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6589301, member: 42582"] I don't really understand. I asserted that certain choices are not meaningful. You asked why. I answered - they are not full of either value or purpose. They are causally connected to possible outcomes in the fiction, but no more so than a random choice, a die roll, or my cat walking across the piano keyboard. You think a sufficient condition for "meaningfulness" is causal connection to an output. I think that, in the context of game play, a choice is only meaningful for the player when it somehow expresses or reflects the player's input. If you're not interested in further discussion about what is or isn't significant in the context of RPGing that's your prerogative, but I don't see how you can complain about my answer to your question. I've explained what I mean by "meaningful choice", and it's not a terribly idiosyncratic usage. [/QUOTE]

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