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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6595490" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Look, I've been having these kinds of discussions about D&D since literally the 1970's, and this is the FIRST time I can ever recall someone attempting to use these quixotic definitions. If you talk to 100 RPG designers about this topic, or 100 highly experienced DMs every single one of them is going to agree with my definition and not yours. You can call them any sort of definitions you want, but they are the established definitions that are used universally, because they are the ones that have utility. Players could give a crap less if the random choice they made that was a blind guess they could have rolled a d6 for had 'meaning' by your definition or not. They want ACTUAL AGENCY IN THE GAME! lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>