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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6616507" data-attributes="member: 82106">Oh, yeah, in the end pretty much everything in games is in some large degree 'aesthetics'. Its a leisure/artistic kind of pursuit. Its not like there's some other sort of standard to uphold. I was actually a little disappointed that 4e got so weird and crunchy on the point of &quot;let my wizard cast spells with his sword&quot; or just &quot;let me be good at swordplay AND wizardry&quot;. Not that there aren't a fairly large number of ways to do that in 4e, but it took a LONG time to get there, and many of them are either obtuse, or come with very specific mechanics and such. I mean the most straightforward is to class as wizard, MC into Swordmage, or use the Arcane Implement Proficiency feat, and then use your sword as an implement. Not too hard, but given the vast numbers of feats and options... It also only gets you a very basic &quot;use my sword as a wand&quot; sort of level of capability. You could go on into the rather involved power swapping process and get swordmage powers, but it was very unoptimal and took 10 levels to really get you what you wanted. I LIKE classes, but then I always find that I like them more in theory than in practice...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6616507, member: 82106"] Oh, yeah, in the end pretty much everything in games is in some large degree 'aesthetics'. Its a leisure/artistic kind of pursuit. Its not like there's some other sort of standard to uphold. I was actually a little disappointed that 4e got so weird and crunchy on the point of "let my wizard cast spells with his sword" or just "let me be good at swordplay AND wizardry". Not that there aren't a fairly large number of ways to do that in 4e, but it took a LONG time to get there, and many of them are either obtuse, or come with very specific mechanics and such. I mean the most straightforward is to class as wizard, MC into Swordmage, or use the Arcane Implement Proficiency feat, and then use your sword as an implement. Not too hard, but given the vast numbers of feats and options... It also only gets you a very basic "use my sword as a wand" sort of level of capability. You could go on into the rather involved power swapping process and get swordmage powers, but it was very unoptimal and took 10 levels to really get you what you wanted. I LIKE classes, but then I always find that I like them more in theory than in practice... [/QUOTE]

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