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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6641186" data-attributes="member: 82106">Eh, an ancient, huge, red dragon in 1e melees as a 22HD creature (so it almost auto-hits AC0, though chances are its primary opponents will be more in the -5 range, even those won't be MUCH of a challenge to hit). They don't put out a super high single-turn damage with their melee attacks, but this dragon will do about 25 damage per round with its melee attacks. Given the stupidly powerful nature of its breath weapon (most level 10 PCs on average will be killed EVEN IF THEY SAVE) it doesn't really make too much difference.Now, in terms of being an exciting opponent that can do a variety of things... I agree, AD&D 1e dragons are rather one-trick ponies. They COULD be spell-casters, which makes things quite a bit more interesting, but flying and having a massive damage AoE is pretty much their thing. Melee with a 4e dragon is definitely a LOT more interesting, though you do have to be careful about the setup of your solos.</blockquote>