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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6641662" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I've never been a huge fan of dragons, as a GM. (My players know to expect demons and undead, and not too many dragons.)</p><p></p><p>In 4e, as best I can recall, I've had three dragon combats over 29 levels.</p><p></p><p>At around 4th or 5th the PCs fought a black dragon (from the original MM). It had to close from range, and they took advantage of that to get off a few shots. It then engaged them in melee and used darkness to good effect, but the wizard had an elven statue of the Summer Queen in his possession, and he used his actions to make Arcana checks (of increasing degrees of difficulty) to dispel the dragon's darkness every time it got put up again.</p><p></p><p>The actual terrain involved a temple portico, with pillars, and stairs from one level to another, that factored into the positioning.</p><p></p><p>At that time, it was the best dragon encounter I'd run in many years of GMing (the only one that sticks in my memory from prior to that is when an elven PC got frozen solid by the cold crit from the Rolemaster implementation of the shadow dragon in a dungeon in the module Five Shall Be One).</p><p></p><p>The next was with <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?319168-The-PCs-defeat-Calastryx-(and-get-up-to-some-other-hijinks)" target="_blank">Calastryx</a>. It was pretty dramatic, and climaxed with Calastryx getting defeated by the breath weapon of a dragonling familiar (Thunderwave from above driving Calastryx to the ground, allowing the fighter to lock her down and kill her).</p><p></p><p>The third was an aerial assault by dragons on the PCs Thundercloud Tower while flying through the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?358025-Session-Report-Against-the-(Frost)-Giants" target="_blank">Glacial Rift of the Frost Giant Jarl</a>. It turns out dragons are quite good at aerial assaults, although once the figher leapt from the tower onto the dragon's back that was pretty much it for the dragon.</p><p></p><p>(That turns out to be around one every 10 levels - 4th or 5th, 15th, 26th.)</p><p></p><p>I haven't been moved to try and pick up the Draconomicons, but they were pretty exciting combats.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6641662, member: 42582"] I've never been a huge fan of dragons, as a GM. (My players know to expect demons and undead, and not too many dragons.) In 4e, as best I can recall, I've had three dragon combats over 29 levels. At around 4th or 5th the PCs fought a black dragon (from the original MM). It had to close from range, and they took advantage of that to get off a few shots. It then engaged them in melee and used darkness to good effect, but the wizard had an elven statue of the Summer Queen in his possession, and he used his actions to make Arcana checks (of increasing degrees of difficulty) to dispel the dragon's darkness every time it got put up again. The actual terrain involved a temple portico, with pillars, and stairs from one level to another, that factored into the positioning. At that time, it was the best dragon encounter I'd run in many years of GMing (the only one that sticks in my memory from prior to that is when an elven PC got frozen solid by the cold crit from the Rolemaster implementation of the shadow dragon in a dungeon in the module Five Shall Be One). The next was with [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?319168-The-PCs-defeat-Calastryx-(and-get-up-to-some-other-hijinks)]Calastryx[/url]. It was pretty dramatic, and climaxed with Calastryx getting defeated by the breath weapon of a dragonling familiar (Thunderwave from above driving Calastryx to the ground, allowing the fighter to lock her down and kill her). The third was an aerial assault by dragons on the PCs Thundercloud Tower while flying through the [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?358025-Session-Report-Against-the-(Frost)-Giants]Glacial Rift of the Frost Giant Jarl[/url]. It turns out dragons are quite good at aerial assaults, although once the figher leapt from the tower onto the dragon's back that was pretty much it for the dragon. (That turns out to be around one every 10 levels - 4th or 5th, 15th, 26th.) I haven't been moved to try and pick up the Draconomicons, but they were pretty exciting combats. [/QUOTE]
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