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<blockquote data-quote="Steven K" data-source="post: 8538691" data-attributes="member: 7034837"><p>I have a problem with you calling her a trickster, as opposed to just someone tricky or shrewd, because that is a well-defined mythological figure of a type that she is most definitely not. But words aside, yeah, it's possible Rachel was involved in the deception as well. It's also possible she was given something to knock her out on the day of the wedding and spent the night asleep. There's no evidence either way. But Laban definitely orchestrated the whole thing, and Leah executed it, regardless of Rachel's involvement. Unless you want to claim Rachel was the one who suggested it to Laban, came up with the plan, and coached Leah through it, but that goes well beyond the textual evidence. </p><p></p><p>In fact, it might stand against it. Rachel and Leah didn't like each other, once they were both married to Jacob. The primary reason was they were competing over his affection, a possible secondary reason is that Rachel was not in on the scam and it strained relations between the pair. What is not viable is to see them as co-conspirators attempting to manipulate Jacob towards their own ends, since they are not portrayed as acting that way at all. Likewise, Rachel stole Laban's household gods and used her menstrual period as an excuse for why she couldn't get up for her bags to be searched. That, to me, implies some degree of hostility to her actions, as well as shrewd tactics. She had no need of the household gods, it's not like Jacob wasn't wealthy or anything. It seems more like she wanted to defy and inconvenience Laban just for the sake of it. That hostility, perhaps, had good reason.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steven K, post: 8538691, member: 7034837"] I have a problem with you calling her a trickster, as opposed to just someone tricky or shrewd, because that is a well-defined mythological figure of a type that she is most definitely not. But words aside, yeah, it's possible Rachel was involved in the deception as well. It's also possible she was given something to knock her out on the day of the wedding and spent the night asleep. There's no evidence either way. But Laban definitely orchestrated the whole thing, and Leah executed it, regardless of Rachel's involvement. Unless you want to claim Rachel was the one who suggested it to Laban, came up with the plan, and coached Leah through it, but that goes well beyond the textual evidence. In fact, it might stand against it. Rachel and Leah didn't like each other, once they were both married to Jacob. The primary reason was they were competing over his affection, a possible secondary reason is that Rachel was not in on the scam and it strained relations between the pair. What is not viable is to see them as co-conspirators attempting to manipulate Jacob towards their own ends, since they are not portrayed as acting that way at all. Likewise, Rachel stole Laban's household gods and used her menstrual period as an excuse for why she couldn't get up for her bags to be searched. That, to me, implies some degree of hostility to her actions, as well as shrewd tactics. She had no need of the household gods, it's not like Jacob wasn't wealthy or anything. It seems more like she wanted to defy and inconvenience Laban just for the sake of it. That hostility, perhaps, had good reason. [/QUOTE]
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