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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 399739" data-attributes="member: 2358">I agree that Intelligence should have nothing to do with it.  That's why it depends only on the number of *ranks* in the Knowledge (ki) skill, disregarding the total modifier due to any ability score.  This skill represents actual training.  I have considered making this a Wisdom skill instead of an Intelligence skill, and making it cross-class for all classes except for the Saiyan Elite, Monk, and other such classes, but as of yet I am undecided on that matter.Any which way, though, Wisdom itself should not be the deciding factor.  A skill and a series of feats work perfectly, because all ki uses require training, and the skill and feats represent that training.Actually, in a balanced party on a full adventure, this isn't too light at all.  Many of these feats have extreme prerequisites, and in addition, how many clerics will spend their healing spells just to heal subdual damage when no real damage has been taken?  Subdual damage adds up in an adventure.The idea does have merit, however, and I have considered such a thing, but considering one can knock oneself out or even kill himself using too much ki, I'm apt to stick with the subdual damage system in order to keep the balance.In practice, I think you would notice it to be pretty balanced considering the more powerful ki feats are, realistically,  unavailable before like Level 30 or above.  Epic Energy Manipulation, which allows access to the more powerful ki abilities, requires a 22 Constitution score, six feats, and 23 ranks in Knowledge (ki).  That means that MOST character will be Level 43 before they can have access!  At that level, doing hundreds of points of damage is easy for all characters as it is.  I don't see many people investing in the ki feats mainly because it takes a LONG time to get use out of them, and most can divert their resources to other things.  That is the balance.Only with Saiyans does the damage get ridiculous with these feats.</blockquote>

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