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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2729211" data-attributes="member: 2011">Actually, it's a good sized benefit. Even at levels 2 though 7, the psion only has a slight edge. At higher levels, the Sorcerer has a significant edge.I might not have been clear on what S5 is. It is the "can cast more spells at most levels" advantage of the Sorcerer.In other words, if you convert all of the Sorcerer 1st through x level spells to PPs, the Sorcerer get more PP than the Psion.The Sorcerer cannot cast more high level spells, but he can (generally) cast more spells. This assumes that the Psion is not using 1 PP to manifest all of his first level powers and never augmenting them or manifesting higher level powers (which is a bit of an extremist situation, even though the Psion could do it).The Psion actually knows more powers and can know more same level powers than a same level Sorcerer does spells (if you discount 0th level spells which I do and since I added them in as a separate merit).It's not just that he can have more higher level powers, it's that he has more powers to choose from at every level. And if he picks the highest level powers, he has more of them as well.PS. Could you please drop the word "vice" in your posts. I have no idea what it means and hence lose the thread of what you are trying to say. I'm sure I'm not the only person who gets confused by it. Do you mean "instead of" when you write it? If so, please say "instead of".</blockquote>