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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2729344" data-attributes="member: 29014">But in that way, you are blatantly discounting the opportunity cost of expending the psionic focus as well as all of those extra psionic feats that you made into separate bonuses for the Psion.  You have to look at the big picture.  Based on the low percentage of creatures with troublesome SRs as opposed to situations where, for instance, Quicken might be useful, or Empower, or any of the other feats that expend focus, it would be foolish to have GPP as your only feat that expends focus.  Therefore, it would be extremely biased in favour of your interpretation to look at a Psion who made the somewhat-absurd decision to never take any of those feats except GPP--the only possible reason for this would be so that you could discount an important opportunity cost.To address each point:This has nothing to do with the argument at hand--of course the sorcerer might have something better to do with the move action.  You're right.  We aren't talking about that though.You keep say I'm comparing 2 feats to 3 feats, but I'm not.  I'm comparing 3 feats to 3 feats, but not all 3 feats can be used in the case of GPP and Empower due to focus constraints.Again, your example is flawed because you are comparing Greater Power Penetration to normal Spell Penetration.  Psions have three feats at either level 1 or 3 depending on race, and they are going to take useful feats against other monsters that don't have SR--the Psion with GPP and Empower vs GSP and Empower is a valid comparison.I already mentioned that in my initial post.  However, based on the CRs of opponents with that kind of SR, you're actually more likely for the SRs to be lower.Which is what you did when you chose to reassign the feats in my example so that the one Psion didn't have GSP anymore.</blockquote>

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