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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2729717" data-attributes="member: 29014">No, what I am saying is that we aren't talking about the Sorcerer here--we are comparing GSP to GPP under the possibility that the Psion could take both.&nbsp; If you're trying to draw a parallel here with GSP and Metamagic, it doesn't fit because GSP isn't an action, but it doesn't seem like you are.&nbsp; If you're not, then while you certainly have a valid point about move actions with which I agree, it is utterly irrelevant to our particular discussion.No, I'm not.&nbsp; I've explained it to you several times, but let me do so again.Psion one has Power Penetration, Greater Power Penetration, and Empower Power as his three feats.&nbsp; Psion two has Spell Penetration, Greater Spell Penetration, and Empower Power.Sadly for Psion one, if he chooses to activate GPP, he can't use Empower Power as well, but that is due to the inherent limitation on GPP, not due to not having the feat at all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 2729717, member: 29014"] No, what I am saying is that we aren't talking about the Sorcerer here--we are comparing GSP to GPP under the possibility that the Psion could take both. If you're trying to draw a parallel here with GSP and Metamagic, it doesn't fit because GSP isn't an action, but it doesn't seem like you are. If you're not, then while you certainly have a valid point about move actions with which I agree, it is utterly irrelevant to our particular discussion. No, I'm not. I've explained it to you several times, but let me do so again. Psion one has Power Penetration, Greater Power Penetration, and Empower Power as his three feats. Psion two has Spell Penetration, Greater Spell Penetration, and Empower Power. Sadly for Psion one, if he chooses to activate GPP, he can't use Empower Power as well, but that is due to the inherent limitation on GPP, not due to not having the feat at all. [/QUOTE]

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