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The Big Picture: Psions Versus Sorcerers
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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2730695" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Didn't have time to get back to this one.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I had a hard time with this one.</p><p></p><p>The trade issue is a bit moot when we are talking big ticket Gold Piece spells or powers. You have to craft a lot of arrows and find a big market to get 500 GP or 5000 GP.</p><p></p><p>The trade issue comes in with crafting magical items, but then you are giving up Experience Points in order to trade that for Gold Pieces anyway.</p><p></p><p>And yes, I understand that Experience Points are like Platinum Bars to some players whereas Gold Pieces are just Gold Pieces. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>But, that is a personal decision, not a game mechanic decision. In the game, the ratio tends to be 25 GP = 1 XP for many things.</p><p></p><p>Psionic Contingency is 15 XP. That's equal to 375 GP or about a second level potion. Contingency is a 1500 GP focus that is reusable.</p><p></p><p>Fusion is 50 XP. But it's a very potent power.</p><p></p><p>Genesis (an entire demi-plane) is 1000 XP.</p><p></p><p>Incarnate if 500 to 2000 XP. Permanency is 500 to 2500 XP for personal spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Many of the powers emulate spells which also have an XP category:</p><p></p><p>Mind Seed (3000 XP) versus Simulacrum (100 XP per HD, but it is not an attack).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Some do not:</p><p></p><p>Mind Switch (100 XP) versus Magic Jar. Yes there's a slight edge on this comparison because Magic Jar has a focus, not expensive material components.</p><p></p><p>Mind Switch True (10000 XP). A permanent fountain of youth. Can a Sorcerer even do this, even with Wish?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Some XP powers (Mind Switch True, Psychic Reformation, Psychic Chirurgery for knowledge transfer) are powerful ones which Sorcerers cannot emulate at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But, I'm not seeing anything significant here on most powers and similar spells. Maybe you could point out several similar powers / spells where the advantage is really obvious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2730695, member: 2011"] Didn't have time to get back to this one. Yes, I had a hard time with this one. The trade issue is a bit moot when we are talking big ticket Gold Piece spells or powers. You have to craft a lot of arrows and find a big market to get 500 GP or 5000 GP. The trade issue comes in with crafting magical items, but then you are giving up Experience Points in order to trade that for Gold Pieces anyway. And yes, I understand that Experience Points are like Platinum Bars to some players whereas Gold Pieces are just Gold Pieces. ;) But, that is a personal decision, not a game mechanic decision. In the game, the ratio tends to be 25 GP = 1 XP for many things. Psionic Contingency is 15 XP. That's equal to 375 GP or about a second level potion. Contingency is a 1500 GP focus that is reusable. Fusion is 50 XP. But it's a very potent power. Genesis (an entire demi-plane) is 1000 XP. Incarnate if 500 to 2000 XP. Permanency is 500 to 2500 XP for personal spells. Many of the powers emulate spells which also have an XP category: Mind Seed (3000 XP) versus Simulacrum (100 XP per HD, but it is not an attack). Some do not: Mind Switch (100 XP) versus Magic Jar. Yes there's a slight edge on this comparison because Magic Jar has a focus, not expensive material components. Mind Switch True (10000 XP). A permanent fountain of youth. Can a Sorcerer even do this, even with Wish? Some XP powers (Mind Switch True, Psychic Reformation, Psychic Chirurgery for knowledge transfer) are powerful ones which Sorcerers cannot emulate at all. But, I'm not seeing anything significant here on most powers and similar spells. Maybe you could point out several similar powers / spells where the advantage is really obvious. [/QUOTE]
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