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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2732434" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I've already broken it out as one merit to sorcerers, one merit to psions. You appear to be arguing just to argue.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorcerers do not know more same level spells.</p><p></p><p>Apples and apples.</p><p></p><p>Although they have their use, zeroth levels spells just skew the data. So, I called them out separately and I put them into their proper perspective. What is mostly important in the game is spells of a given level, WHEN you achieve that level. For all intents and purposes, knowing a bunch of zeroth level spells is a minor convenience at best. But, it is nowhere near the advantage of knowing 2 or 3 extra same or higher level highest level spells. And, it is not comparing apples to apples.</p><p></p><p>1st level – 3</p><p>1st level – 2</p><p></p><p>2nd level – 5</p><p>2nd level – 2</p><p></p><p>3rd level – 52</p><p>3rd level – 3</p><p></p><p>4th level – 54</p><p>4th level – 31</p><p></p><p>5th level – 542</p><p>5th level – 42</p><p></p><p>6th level – 544</p><p>6th level – 421</p><p></p><p>7th level – 5442</p><p>7th level – 532</p><p></p><p>8th level – 5444</p><p>8th level – 5321</p><p></p><p>9th level – 54442</p><p>9th level – 5432</p><p></p><p>10th level – 54444</p><p>10th level – 54321</p><p></p><p>11th level – 544441</p><p>11th level – 55432</p><p></p><p>12th level – 544443</p><p>12th level – 554321</p><p></p><p>13th level – 5444431</p><p>13th level – 554432</p><p></p><p>14th level – 5444433</p><p>14th level – 5544321</p><p></p><p>15th level – 54444331</p><p>15th level – 5544432</p><p></p><p>16th level – 54444333</p><p>16th level – 55444321</p><p></p><p>17th level – 544443331</p><p>17th level – 55444332</p><p></p><p>18th level – 544443333</p><p>18th level – 554443321</p><p></p><p>19th level – 544443334</p><p>19th level – 554443332</p><p></p><p>20th level – 544443336</p><p>20th level – 554443333</p><p></p><p></p><p>Same levels spells are important to compare. Zeroth level spells are mostly white noise and a very minor Sorcerer merit.</p><p></p><p>Your statement "Sorcerers know more spells" although factually correct is misleading.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2732434, member: 2011"] I've already broken it out as one merit to sorcerers, one merit to psions. You appear to be arguing just to argue. Sorcerers do not know more same level spells. Apples and apples. Although they have their use, zeroth levels spells just skew the data. So, I called them out separately and I put them into their proper perspective. What is mostly important in the game is spells of a given level, WHEN you achieve that level. For all intents and purposes, knowing a bunch of zeroth level spells is a minor convenience at best. But, it is nowhere near the advantage of knowing 2 or 3 extra same or higher level highest level spells. And, it is not comparing apples to apples. 1st level – 3 1st level – 2 2nd level – 5 2nd level – 2 3rd level – 52 3rd level – 3 4th level – 54 4th level – 31 5th level – 542 5th level – 42 6th level – 544 6th level – 421 7th level – 5442 7th level – 532 8th level – 5444 8th level – 5321 9th level – 54442 9th level – 5432 10th level – 54444 10th level – 54321 11th level – 544441 11th level – 55432 12th level – 544443 12th level – 554321 13th level – 5444431 13th level – 554432 14th level – 5444433 14th level – 5544321 15th level – 54444331 15th level – 5544432 16th level – 54444333 16th level – 55444321 17th level – 544443331 17th level – 55444332 18th level – 544443333 18th level – 554443321 19th level – 544443334 19th level – 554443332 20th level – 544443336 20th level – 554443333 Same levels spells are important to compare. Zeroth level spells are mostly white noise and a very minor Sorcerer merit. Your statement "Sorcerers know more spells" although factually correct is misleading. [/QUOTE]
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