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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2732512" data-attributes="member: 2011">Thanks for doing the legwork on this.But, the number and percentages is not what is important here. What is important in a comparison between a Psion and a Sorcerer are powers which actually have Sorcerer equivalent spells (which I mentioned earlier).If the spell or the power has no corresponding power or spell, then it does not matter that they cost XP. If they are powers that Sorcerers cannot emulate, then whether they cost XP or not is irrelevant to the discussion. Mega-powers and mega-spells should cost XP and we have nothing to compare them to.Just like it is irrelevant that Permanency cost more XP when used for non-personal spells. This is not a Sorcerer disadvantage. It is the cost of doing business with mega-effects for the Sorcerer. Some spells / powers are severely limited because they are game breaking if used a lot.In fact, it is basically a Psion advantage that he has so many of these mega-powers (which go way outside the normal game parameters as to what can be accomplished) to choose from. You'll notice that the vast majoirty of the Psion Only powers that cost XP are 8th or 9th level powers. For example, Mind Switch, True is effectively eternal youth. A lot of these powers have huge benefits, in some cases surpassing minor Epic Level spells.From this analysis, it appears to me that there are two merits here, one for Sorcerers and one for Psions:1) Psions get more "mega-powers" (i.e. ones which are extremely powerful and cost XP because of it).2) There are 5 powers for which Psions have to pay XP whereas Sorcerers do not have to pay XP.The following 5 powers and spells are the ones which both of them get (at least to my knowledge, I am not very familiar with a lot of the high level Sorcerer spells, correct me if I made a mistake), but for which the Psion pays XP and the Sorcerer does not:Similar Power and Spells, one of which cost XP:Contingency, PsionicLevel: Psion/wilder 6Power Points: 11, XP (15)ContingencyLevel:Sor/Wiz 6Components: V, S, M (unusual) , F (1500 GP)Sequester, PsionicLevel: Psion/wilder 7Power Points: 13, XPXP Cost: 75 XPSequesterLevel: Sor/Wiz 7Components: V, S, MMind SwitchLevel: Telepath 6Power Points: 11, XP (100)Magic Jar (you do not keep supernatural or spell-like abilities, you do not get to pick specific targets)Level: Sor/Wiz 5Components: V, S, F (100 GP)Metamorphosis, GreaterLevel: Egoist 9Power Points: 17, XP (200)ShapechangeLevel: Animal 9, Drd 9, Sor/Wiz 9Components: V, S, FRemote ViewingLevel: Seer 4Power Points: 7, XP (20)Scrying (cannot be done across planar boundaries)Level: Brd 3, Clr 5, Drd 4, Sor/Wiz 4Components: V, S, M/DF, F (1000 GP)Similar Power and Spells, both of which cost XP. These look like a wash to me.IncarnateLevel: Psion/wilder 5Power Points: 9, XP (500 to 2,000)PermanencyLevel: Sor/Wiz 5Components: V, S, XP (500 – 2,500 for personal spells)Bend RealityLevel: Psion/wilder 8Power Points: 15, XP (300+)Limited WishLevel: Sor/Wiz 7Components: V, S, XP (300+)Reality RevisionLevel: Psion/wilder 9Power Points: 17, XP (5,000+)WishLevel: Sor/Wiz 9Components: V, XP (5,000+)Powers which have no corresponding spell. Psion advantage, regardless of the fact that they cost XP:Psychic ReformationLevel: Psion/wilder 4Power Points: 7, XP; see textXP Cost: This power costs 50 XP to manifest to reformat choices made when the character reached her current level. For each additional previous level into which the revision reaches, the power costs an additional 50 XP. The manifester and subject split all XP costs evenly.Matter ManipulationLevel: Psion/wilder 8Power Points: 15, XP (250/hardness point)ApopsiLevel: Psion/wilder 9Power Points: 17, XP (50/level of power deleted)Psionic RevivifyLevel: Egoist 5Power Points: 9, XP (200+)FusionLevel: Egoist 8Power Points: 15, XP (50)Mind SeedLevel: Telepath 8Power Points: 15, XP (3,000)Mind Switch, TrueLevel: Telepath 9Power Points: 17, XP (10,000)Time RegressionLevel: Nomad 9Power Points: 17, XP (1,000)GenesisLevel: Shaper 9Power Points: 17, XP (1,000)Psychic Chirurgery (Transfer Knowledge Only)Level: Telepath 9Power Points: 17, XP (1000 x level of power implanted)MetafacultyLevel: Seer 9Power Points: 17, XP (1,000)True CreationLevel: Shaper 9Power Points: 17, XP (1/5 gp value, 1+)Spells which have no corresponding power. Sorcerer advantage, regardless of the fact that they cost XP:SimulacrumLevel: Sor/Wiz 7Components: V, S, M, XP (100/HD of simulacrum, minimum 1,000)VisionLevel: Sor/Wiz 7Components: V, S, M, XP (100)GateLevel: Clr 9, Sor/Wiz 9Components: V, S, XP(1,000 when calling a creature only)</blockquote>

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