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Message: <blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 2732570" data-attributes="member: 16285">No because you are also consistently stating that the 0-level spells that sorcerers get is not a real advantage and that they don't count for much. That is the "more spells" advantage you gave them. See below as an example.How about the number of 0-=level sorcer spells that are 1st level psion spells and have constant use regardless of level?Detect MagicRead Magicetc.Dismissing this outright is plane ridiculous.You seem to be facinated with pure firepower type spells when the sorcerer's main advantage as a caster is his versatility - having the right spell at the right time. Not in the fact that he can cast more fireballs than a wizard can, but the fact that he can choose any spell in his memory based on the situation. He is adaptive.There are an awful lot of non-combat spells that are extremely useful and should never be discounted.</blockquote>