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The Big Picture: Psions Versus Sorcerers
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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2732614" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>Comparing spells known vs. powers known and available spells vs. available powers is kinda deceptive.</p><p></p><p>A pair of examples, one each direction: </p><p>A Sorceror wanting to do either Fire or Electricity damage with a third level spell must expend two spells known (or one and a feat); for a Psion to do Fire or Electricity damage with a third level power, (s)he needs only a single power - Energy Bolt, say - and also gets Cold and Sonic damage options as a bonus (as well as a few other nifties); effectively four different spells known for the price of one power known (although they are tightly packaged in a theme - same range, same cost, et cetera). </p><p></p><p>Likewise, a Sorceror with a bent towards [Shadow] spells can use one spell known (and a higher slot....) to effictively duplicate any one of several lower spells (with caveats: an extra "Will Partial (See Text)" save, "SR: Yes" even if the duplicated spell doesn't take SR, and reduced HP of anything built that way) while the closest equivalent for the Psion is Bend Reality (which is the Sor/Wiz Limited Wish at one level higher).</p><p></p><p>Those are just two quick examples; there are more.</p><p></p><p>Mind you, I have no idea which way the power balance ultimately lies.... which likely means they are close enough to balanced against each other using a PHB and XPH comparison.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 2732614, member: 29252"] Comparing spells known vs. powers known and available spells vs. available powers is kinda deceptive. A pair of examples, one each direction: A Sorceror wanting to do either Fire or Electricity damage with a third level spell must expend two spells known (or one and a feat); for a Psion to do Fire or Electricity damage with a third level power, (s)he needs only a single power - Energy Bolt, say - and also gets Cold and Sonic damage options as a bonus (as well as a few other nifties); effectively four different spells known for the price of one power known (although they are tightly packaged in a theme - same range, same cost, et cetera). Likewise, a Sorceror with a bent towards [Shadow] spells can use one spell known (and a higher slot....) to effictively duplicate any one of several lower spells (with caveats: an extra "Will Partial (See Text)" save, "SR: Yes" even if the duplicated spell doesn't take SR, and reduced HP of anything built that way) while the closest equivalent for the Psion is Bend Reality (which is the Sor/Wiz Limited Wish at one level higher). Those are just two quick examples; there are more. Mind you, I have no idea which way the power balance ultimately lies.... which likely means they are close enough to balanced against each other using a PHB and XPH comparison. [/QUOTE]
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