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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2732973" data-attributes="member: 2011">I have no such assumption at all.Please give me some credit for the ability to think.A very interesting list.But, at least Psions can get most of these things. Sorcerers cannot gain immortality in the core rules. Sorcerers cannot create their own pocket dimension in core rules.I won't nitpick individual spells.You are absolutely correct that there are things that Psions are prevented from doing. Just like there are things that Sorcerers are prevented from doing.Looking at this another way, there are things that Psions are better at. There are things that Sorcerers are better at.Now, if you have a group of similar utility Sorcerer spells that Psions can rarely or never get, please list them and I'll add them to the list.An example is P20: healing. Healing is important in the game. Psions have a variety of ways to do this at lower levels. Sorcerers have a few ways to do this later on.Do I consider healing really huge? Not really. I do, however, concede that it's a significant part of the game utility-wise and is an advantage of Psions.Note: On the feat issue, I find it amazing that people consider feats such a huge thing that many players will take a Human character, just to get one more feat at first level, but here, they are suddenly trivial. If Sorcerers got extra feats and psions did not, I would bet good money that the pro-psion people would not have a problem with me ranking one feat = one merit as an issue.A feat is a special ability that nobody else has unless they too take the feat. For example, crafting an item. Nobody else in the game can do that unless they take that feat. Spells, typically, do not give you that same advantage although they can emulate some feats or even do the same thing plus more, often for shorter periods of time.Feats are special. You only get so many of them in the game. To trivialize them into 5 feats = 1 merit is not impartial.If you want to do that, you have an agenda.I'll add it. Done.This is already handled by S2.This is trivial. You yourself point out that Temporal Acceleration can be used for 6 levels before Timestop. Plus, you can Quicken Powers or Schism with Temporal Acceleration to get 5 rounds worth of actions every single time. Sorcerers might get 2 actions with Time Stop. The average with Temporal Acceleration is 3, the average with Time Stop is 3.5. This is nitpicking when you are talking one or two rounds per use sometimes versus 6 extra levels worth of use.I won't be adding something like this to the list. If you have more real ones like Leadership, I'll add them.I won't even be adding that one spell lasts one minute per level whereas the equivalent power lasts one round per level either.That's white noise.You have a group of spells that psions cannot gain, sure. I'll add them. But, I won't nitpick individual powers or spells to the nth degree.Note: Baleful Polymorph above is just one more attack spell. The fact that it changes the opponent as opposed to holding or killing the opponent is not that big of a deal.No doubt.But, this is like Scientific Theories. If you sit down and actually dissect it, a trend starts to become readily noticable for all to take a look at. That does not happen when you argue them out in a free for all style.And yes, some people will have differing opinions as to whether something should or should not get added to the list.And, you'll get people who for various reasons stick to their guns no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary. They are not impartial people, but they have the right to their non-wavering opinion. Your assumption appears to be that most people are like this. My assumption is that when presented with facts, most people are reasonable.And, there might also be people who either came in with no preconcieved notion who will fall on one side or the other, or who came in with a preconceived notion who will fall on the opposite side, just because this is broken down as opposed to just being a shouting match.But if you do think one way or another, you have a chance here to illustrate your position.</blockquote>

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