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The Big Picture: Psions Versus Sorcerers
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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 2733024" data-attributes="member: 16285"><p>Here are other things I have trouble with in the listing, basically because they are counting the same advantage 2 or more times – thus skewing the data:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is the fact that psions can augment their powers for special effects, some of which include increases the DC. But it is all part of the same advantage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I make my argument from before. All of these “constantly on” ones are specifically obtainable by a sorcerer, by using feats. The advantage a psion has is that he has more feats with which to work from in obtaining these and that has already been laid out as a psion advantage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This one is so skewed it is really aggravating me. The advantage that GPP has is only for a single shot kill. Rystal Ardin very sicicntly laid out that if it is not a single shot kill then the sorcerer will have an advantage. Regardless this should be wrapped up into the bonus feats advantage since the psion must chose which feats to have.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that the lower level spells laid out by me that increase the number of actions the sorcerer can have or reduce those that his opponent can have pretty clearly lay out this is not an advantage for a psion. IMO it is a wash.</p><p></p><p>Ghost touch (2nd level) – paralyzes opponent</p><p></p><p>Slow (3rd level) - reduces opponents actions</p><p></p><p>Hold Person (3rd level) – Paralyzed opponent</p><p></p><p></p><p>How about the power word spells?</p><p></p><p>Talk about overpowering.</p><p></p><p>Power Word, Blind (7th level).</p><p></p><p>Power Word, Stun (8th level)</p><p></p><p>No saves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 2733024, member: 16285"] Here are other things I have trouble with in the listing, basically because they are counting the same advantage 2 or more times – thus skewing the data: This is the fact that psions can augment their powers for special effects, some of which include increases the DC. But it is all part of the same advantage. Again, I make my argument from before. All of these “constantly on” ones are specifically obtainable by a sorcerer, by using feats. The advantage a psion has is that he has more feats with which to work from in obtaining these and that has already been laid out as a psion advantage. This one is so skewed it is really aggravating me. The advantage that GPP has is only for a single shot kill. Rystal Ardin very sicicntly laid out that if it is not a single shot kill then the sorcerer will have an advantage. Regardless this should be wrapped up into the bonus feats advantage since the psion must chose which feats to have. I think that the lower level spells laid out by me that increase the number of actions the sorcerer can have or reduce those that his opponent can have pretty clearly lay out this is not an advantage for a psion. IMO it is a wash. Ghost touch (2nd level) – paralyzes opponent Slow (3rd level) - reduces opponents actions Hold Person (3rd level) – Paralyzed opponent How about the power word spells? Talk about overpowering. Power Word, Blind (7th level). Power Word, Stun (8th level) No saves. [/QUOTE]
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