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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nameless" data-source="post: 2733411" data-attributes="member: 1543">Two things that aren't being brought up in favor of the sorceror:1. Far superior staying power. A psion can manifest more powers that are effectively his highest level (through augmentation), but to really be effective, a vast majority of his combat powers NEED to be fully augmented.A sorceror can't throw his highest level spells as many times as a psion, but his spells that are a level or two below max can be at least as effective. And then he still has all of his low-level utility spells that are basically freebies.2. The Wiz/Sor spell list is more powerful and versatile than the Psion list. For direct damage-dealing, Psions have ostensibly better powers like Hail of Crystals, the Energy ___ powers, and Astral Construct. Psions don't have equivalents to staple spells like Evard's Black Tentacles or Rope Trick. Psions don't really have any buff spells that affect other people. Astral Constructs are good meat shields, but don't have many of the immunities, spell-like abilities, and unique powers that Summon Monster can duplicate.Psions have the bread-and-butter powers, but Sorcerors have the interesting spells that make them more than damage-fountain for the party.</blockquote>