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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2734468" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Void? Misleading?</p><p></p><p>There are 277 Psionic powers. A given Psion can get any of those except 9th level non-discipline.</p><p></p><p>He has access to about 267 or 268 powers including all of the Psychic Warrior powers. I'll change the number to ~267. Done.</p><p></p><p>It is not whether it is easy to access those, it is that he can.</p><p></p><p>If you want me to list it as a Sorcerer advantage that Sorcerers get more to choose from ~375 vs ~175++ and a second Psion advantage that Psions can pick from the non-discipline lists including the list <strong>from an entire different class</strong>, I can do so.</p><p></p><p>No other core classes can pick spells from a different class.</p><p></p><p>Even when you point out the minutia like this, all you do is yet again illustrate how potent Psions really are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Important? 100% of powers versus 31 spells out of 375 or less than 9% of spells?</p><p></p><p>It's still a Psion advantage. What you said here does not come close to changing that fact.</p><p></p><p>Your entire point here is mostly trivial. It's not really that important. It doesn't change the fact that psions have a significant advantage here. It is only important to you because you for some reason want to illustrate that the advantage is a little bit tinier than the merit indicates.</p><p></p><p>I won't be discussing this with you anymore unless you come up with real advantages. Going into the minutia of the ones we have already listed doesn't accomplish anything. All it does is argue about minutia (my new word for this post <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2734468, member: 2011"] Void? Misleading? There are 277 Psionic powers. A given Psion can get any of those except 9th level non-discipline. He has access to about 267 or 268 powers including all of the Psychic Warrior powers. I'll change the number to ~267. Done. It is not whether it is easy to access those, it is that he can. If you want me to list it as a Sorcerer advantage that Sorcerers get more to choose from ~375 vs ~175++ and a second Psion advantage that Psions can pick from the non-discipline lists including the list [b]from an entire different class[/b], I can do so. No other core classes can pick spells from a different class. Even when you point out the minutia like this, all you do is yet again illustrate how potent Psions really are. Important? 100% of powers versus 31 spells out of 375 or less than 9% of spells? It's still a Psion advantage. What you said here does not come close to changing that fact. Your entire point here is mostly trivial. It's not really that important. It doesn't change the fact that psions have a significant advantage here. It is only important to you because you for some reason want to illustrate that the advantage is a little bit tinier than the merit indicates. I won't be discussing this with you anymore unless you come up with real advantages. Going into the minutia of the ones we have already listed doesn't accomplish anything. All it does is argue about minutia (my new word for this post ;) ). [/QUOTE]
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