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<blockquote data-quote="Abe.ebA" data-source="post: 2891589" data-attributes="member: 32545">Large creatures I don't really have a problem with.&nbsp; Yeah, 8-15 feet is big, but it's not insurmountable.&nbsp; Given a 3+ foot long steel blade or a polearm or something, whacking a 10 foot tall creature in the face is far from impossible and you can still reach all the other vital areas pretty well.&nbsp; It's the bigger creatures that I was thinking about.&nbsp; Like the whole situation with dragons (and similarly sized beasts).&nbsp; You're standing in the square adjacent the dragon, its body is probably slightly overhead and its head is way the heck up in the air, so the only thing you can reach are the claws and heavily-armored legs...but your attacks are perfectly effective.&nbsp; If you do climb up onto the beast using some ad-hoc judgement from the DM, you maybe get an attack bonus at the DM's discretion.&nbsp; And even if you have climbed up on top of a Gargantuan sized opponent... how are you going to hurt it with a 6&quot; long dagger?I admit it's a bit complex and could probably do with some streamlining.&nbsp; It just seems like whenever the topic of Medium adventurers vs. Huge+ adversary comes up the answer is &quot;yeah, but you can just climb up onto it and then stab away&quot; despite that there are no rules for doing so.&nbsp; I'm hardly one of those &quot;there have to be rules for everything&quot; people, but this seems like a big oversight to me.&nbsp; Maybe just give creatures DR 2/-- for every size category larger they are, rather than reducing die size?&nbsp; Then a dagger would be useless vs. Huge+ without a feat.What about the climbing-up-the-beastie bit?&nbsp; It doesn't seem that complex (to me, at least).&nbsp; One check to see if you can get up on them, then they have the option of trying to shake you off.&nbsp; Less complicated than grapple, at least <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; If we went the DR route, climbing up on them could just give a +2 bonus to damage.&nbsp; Then if you have a spell/item/etc that negates their DR in the first place you get a bonus from having climbed them anyway.&nbsp; Any suggestions?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Abe.ebA, post: 2891589, member: 32545"] Large creatures I don't really have a problem with. Yeah, 8-15 feet is big, but it's not insurmountable. Given a 3+ foot long steel blade or a polearm or something, whacking a 10 foot tall creature in the face is far from impossible and you can still reach all the other vital areas pretty well. It's the bigger creatures that I was thinking about. Like the whole situation with dragons (and similarly sized beasts). You're standing in the square adjacent the dragon, its body is probably slightly overhead and its head is way the heck up in the air, so the only thing you can reach are the claws and heavily-armored legs...but your attacks are perfectly effective. If you do climb up onto the beast using some ad-hoc judgement from the DM, you maybe get an attack bonus at the DM's discretion. And even if you have climbed up on top of a Gargantuan sized opponent... how are you going to hurt it with a 6" long dagger? I admit it's a bit complex and could probably do with some streamlining. It just seems like whenever the topic of Medium adventurers vs. Huge+ adversary comes up the answer is "yeah, but you can just climb up onto it and then stab away" despite that there are no rules for doing so. I'm hardly one of those "there have to be rules for everything" people, but this seems like a big oversight to me. Maybe just give creatures DR 2/-- for every size category larger they are, rather than reducing die size? Then a dagger would be useless vs. Huge+ without a feat. What about the climbing-up-the-beastie bit? It doesn't seem that complex (to me, at least). One check to see if you can get up on them, then they have the option of trying to shake you off. Less complicated than grapple, at least ;) If we went the DR route, climbing up on them could just give a +2 bonus to damage. Then if you have a spell/item/etc that negates their DR in the first place you get a bonus from having climbed them anyway. Any suggestions? [/QUOTE]

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