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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lokiare" data-source="post: 5388225" data-attributes="member: 83996"> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"></li> </ul>Well since I don't have access to that book can you summarize a few of the methods mentioned?<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"></li> </ul>Since features differ in scope and time this method would yield variable numbers that wouldn't match the actual time needed. A work break down structure breaks the work down to its smallest part and then allows you to estimate each part, when added up they give you a very accurate view of how long it will take.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"></li> </ul>Estimating stories? seriously? for this to be even remotely accurate they'd have to compare projects and assignments that were almost exactly the same in scope and time to find out how long it would take. This would be really inaccurate. Updating predictions is not a planning model, it is part of the process of working in a team/project environment (if your smart). They can still update a WBS every week, so basically that part doesn't change anything. The heart of the issue? It is not tangential to shipping successful software. It is essential! unless of course the management doesn't care if they have to work their developers 24/7 for the last few weeks to try to hit a deadline because the project wasn't properly planned and the developers abandoned tried and true methods to try a shortcut that then turned out to be a long cut...To summarize my point: When using an agile method an exceptional group of developers can put out decent software on time. A standard group will invariably fail. Using a factory method both the exceptional group and the standard group will put out decent software on time.I'm also not insulting "agile" development. It has its place. Things that need to be out in a short time, that will never need updates should use "agile" development. As far as the software WotC is developing is concerned they will constantly have to update the rules system and add new ways of doing things as long as they keep putting out new books, so a factory model would be a much better way in the long run...</blockquote>

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