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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kobold Avenger" data-source="post: 1178683" data-attributes="member: 779">How Shiradi are different from the Shiere?And out of the celestial index do they even mention any of the Lung Dragons from OA (or anything else from that book)?  Even though they're mainly of a neutral alignment except with "usually" rather than "always".  Because I always thought of those dragons actually being good examples of other types of celestial creatures despite the alignment issues.  But I guess you could always give them a celestial template or something like that to ensure that they are celestials.Last time I checked Throne Archon and Tulani were respectively the Archon and Eladrin equivalents of Balors and Pit Fiends.  I'm guessing their around CR 20 as I remember both creatures to be obscenely powerful with one casting as a 20th level clerics and the other wielding a glowing holy vorpal sword, the Leonal is sort of disappointing because they're the most powerful Guardinal subrace and not as powerful as a Balor, but class levels can always fix that.Before someone else asks this question, are there Nipple Clamps of Exquisite Pleasure?Do Sword Archons still have a ridiculously powerful bite, which I never figured out how it could be that strong based on their size and lack of fangs in 2e?</blockquote>