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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 410609" data-attributes="member: 172">If that is what you want, use what we had before: unstatted demon lords.Going above 20th level isn't even possible without a supplementary book (as others have pained to point out). BoVD is not an Epic Level supplement, it is a core supplement, and they are meant to be challenging to core characters.Well, I think you all know how I feel about Union sentinels. Basically, it was obviously conceived someone as free uber-levels as you seem to be. You are both don't put 20th level in the proper perspective AFAIAC.</blockquote>