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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Claude Raines" data-source="post: 411465" data-attributes="member: 416">They could have treated it in the same fashion, but my point was that the books serve different purposes. One is to let you play CoC fully and completely. The other is to add evil to your villains in a standard D&D game (not epic or statted gods game). BTW, the players in CoC are not meant to challenge the gods because that  is the flavor of the campaign. Any who see them are supposed to go insane and/or die. You can change it if you want, but that's not how most people play it. No, because 3e specifically states that they aren't gods. It then goes to make a few exceptions (Lolth), but they are the exceptions, not the rule.True, which is darn nice of Monte to do so. Just because you have to buy Deities & Demigods to figure out all the particulars doesn't mean that they should have statted them twice for you. After all, if you want their stats as gods, you probably want the stats of all gods and have bought D&Dg. Then you can put the demons & devils at what power is appropriate for your campaign instead of WotC deciding for you and causing more consternation and uproar such as "Why isn't Orcus a greater god????" I agree with you on both these points.Maybe so, but they might have had to cut something completely new instead, like a few spells, feats, or some equipment. I would rather have new stuff than dual statted demon princes. Of course, if they make a web enhancement with deity stats, I certainly won't complain and will probably use it happily.</blockquote>

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