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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 411583" data-attributes="member: 158">A correction to my earlier statement:After looking at the stats for Graz'zt (got it right this time around), and the stats for Big D. and Big O. I can conclude that in First Edition AD&D,  Big G. is comparable in power to D. and O., but not necessarily superior to D. or O. G., for one thing, has weaker Damage resistance, his Magic resistance is weaker, and his armor class is comparable if he isn't using his magic shield, but he is stronger in his spell-like abilities than D. or O. He also carries a bigger entourage. A host of other minor factors come into play, here (for instance, he could cast the equivalent of a wish, but only for others and never himself), but suffice it to say, he should be close to equivalent CR and power - following the 1E example, perhaps he should work out to a CR between Big D. and Big O.?The real pudding will be when I get the book. Only then will we be able to offer a definitive analysis of Graz'zt versus the other princes. However, he will always be my favorite demonic pimp daddy, no matter how he is portrayed. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>